View Full Version : 8IGHT-E 2.0 Buggy Race Roller
Casey Peck
08-22-2009, 03:52 PM
Post any questions or comments on Losi's popular 1/8th buggy electric version
Alex Sturgeon
08-24-2009, 01:05 AM
Has anybody else encountered their transonder not working? If so, what is the best remedy for that?
I raced mine for the first time today and if I'm on the throttle at all while crossing the loop it won't count.
Trevor Clement
08-24-2009, 02:55 PM
I only have a total of 4 battery packs on mine so far but I had no problems with it. I would guess something is wrong somewhere. Either the PT or receiver would be my first guess. Did you try a different PT or receiver? I would start there, eliminating options one at a time.
Here's a short video (thanks Crash!) of the first couple minutes of the a-main at this weekends JBRL. I have to say these things are a blast, definitely a handfull!!!
JBRL - Bakersfield VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvgj-DMLt78)
dakotah97
08-24-2009, 03:07 PM
Alex....Dakotah has been running his all summer with no problems with his personal transponder.
Alex Sturgeon
08-24-2009, 03:46 PM
The PT is brand new...coolest number ever. 8000001.:D
I'm going to work it out on Friday before our 1/10 scale night races and post what I figure out. I suppose it could be our loop.
Casey Peck
08-24-2009, 04:00 PM
Trevor gett'ner done.
Alex that is a sweet pt #
Matt Chambers
08-25-2009, 12:05 AM
This guy in Kansas had a transponder that was 8675308.... 1 number off a hit song!
Alex... Swap the receiver out. If you still have trouble with it send me an e-mail at mchamb23@aol.com and I will put you in touch with Matt Lee. I know he has a lot of experience with the 8ight E and spektrum (obviously). He should be able to help you out.
jared52
08-27-2009, 10:04 AM
My transponder in my 8ight 2.0 RTR has been missing laps too but the number is 3366626 so it might be something the Devil is causing! :)
jzrevo
08-27-2009, 11:28 AM
What weight shock oil are you guys running on the E's? I have found that the stock setup is just to soft for the heavier E versions.
Dan Ross
08-27-2009, 12:08 PM
i went up 2.5 and it was much better.
jzrevo
08-27-2009, 12:11 PM
Guess 45wt and 30wt it is then. Guess I will swap out before the race this weekend.
Robknasel
08-27-2009, 01:42 PM
Hello has anyone had problems with there Losi 14.8 5000 pack. I understand why mine went bad. I left it on the charger after peaking and it balance discharged to zero. I think this is really a charger design flaw. Has anyone had the pack go bad for other reasons? One of the guys at the track had his go bad. I would like to buy another Losi pack but I am concerned about the reliability of these packs. I know that if something went wrong and it wasn't my fault like this last time Horizon would stand behind it. But recently I have not received replys from customer service regarding camber link issues. There are other pack brands out there but I would like to stay with Losi.
Rob Knasel
kwik_uk
08-27-2009, 04:48 PM
A theory I've been informed of, is due to the electromagentic interference from the motor. Servo tape your PT to the underneath of your radio lid.
This has solved the problem for everyone I know who has tried it :)
Trevor Clement
08-27-2009, 05:20 PM
That's where mine is. :D
has anyone set up a 8te 2.0 yet?
and in need of a set up sheet on this please
mrramirez
08-28-2009, 12:11 AM
Just ran my new 2.0 Buggy. I'm running the stock setup for about 4 charges. So far so good, I very happy with the buggy. I'm using 2 losi 4s lipos, and one 4s 5000mah thunder power lipo. Honestly I like the losi hard case lipo, it fits better and performs better to me. :cool:
Pascal Robichaud
08-28-2009, 09:30 AM
I have some issue whit the rear end of my car when i hit the trotle. The rear try to reach the front heaven on straith line. I use 30wt on my rear shock and i also put some 1000 in my rear diff. I am thinking abot the possibilities to put a smart diff on the center. It is good on the E-8ight.
Sorry for my whriting, i am french so i probably do a lot of mistake.:eek:
AaronM
08-28-2009, 04:04 PM
Pascal - I am going to say that is probably due to the motor and battery combo you appear to be running. Most of us have switched to the 1700kv on 4s.... It can still be a handful and most seem to be backing down the throttle curve and taking down the EPA.
I have some issue whit the rear end of my car when i hit the trotle. The rear try to reach the front heaven on straith line. I use 30wt on my rear shock and i also put some 1000 in my rear diff. I am thinking abot the possibilities to put a smart diff on the center. It is good on the E-8ight.
Sorry for my whriting, i am french so i probably do a lot of mistake.:eek:
Diff fluid I was running was F/C/R 7000/10000/3000 sometimes 5000 in front. Was running 40 or maybe 45 weight shock oil in the rear (have to find my setup sheet)
warpig
08-29-2009, 04:22 PM
I'm trying to figure out the logic in running heavier diff fluid. Is it control the torque of the motor? I guess that could work for some people. I've been really successful with my 8ight E 2.0 and I feel the car works better with lighter fluids in the diff (mainly front and center). You don't even have to try to corner it just works. Granted you need a smooth throttle finger for this setup but it is quick on every surface I've ran and it's very consistant. I've ran 15 minute mains with only .1 seconds deviation in my lap times. This is on a dusty loose bumpy surface. I disliked how the car was with 5k in the front and 7k in the center. I run a well broken in smart diff and 3k in the front and I have tons of corner speed. So much so I dropped to 2 degrees antisquat from the 3 degrees everyone else runs.
SeanJones68
08-29-2009, 05:13 PM
hey guys i have had mine for the past 5 months, i have the limited edition, the older 8ight setup buggy. i dont wanna sound like a complainer, but just need help, i have taken it to bill at losi about 3 or 4 times, and he keeps making changes, but still have problem the very next time i take it out.
i have went through 2 esc and a motor, they put all new stuff in, heavy duty motor case screws or bolts, a heat sink and still problems. also two batteries. and the last time he gives me a used one!
so my problems are that i loose power all them time, everything goes well then about two laps in, ill be going down the back straight, and the car just stops! then goes again about 45 seconds later.
please help does anyone else have this problem or is it just me, and what have you done to fix?
Thanks in advance.
jzrevo
08-29-2009, 08:16 PM
How hot is it getting? Sure your not thermaling the setup?
Alex Sturgeon
08-29-2009, 10:59 PM
What radio are you running?
SlashWho
08-29-2009, 11:06 PM
i went up 2.5 and it was much better.
if i can ask, what does 2.5 mean i'm used to weights like 40w thanks
Alex Sturgeon
08-29-2009, 11:39 PM
He means half weights like 42.5 and so on.
SeanJones68
08-30-2009, 11:05 AM
90 degrees at the max is what ive temped.
SeanJones68
08-30-2009, 11:07 AM
sorry the radio is spektrum dx3r
Mr. Awsome
08-30-2009, 03:17 PM
im thinking about getting the losi 8ight-e 2.0, is it a good buggy in general?
warpig
08-30-2009, 04:03 PM
It is amazing...
Alex Sturgeon
08-30-2009, 07:54 PM
Sean Jones, does the ESC shut off for sure? I've had a receiver shut off and act like that once. It was in my nitro car and was my voltage regulator's fault, but it sounds a lot like the same symptom.
On to a different subject...
So, I moved my PT to the receiver box and now it works just fine.
I also did a lot to my car this weekend. My main concern after my initial weekend was to smooth the car out and make it easier to drive.
First, I went to the little heavier weight oil in the shocks and rebuilt the front and rear diffs to the 5 and 3 that are on all the setup sheets. Then, I put the center smart diff in and took out 2 of the stock springs. That helped a ton.
The best thing I did was get rid of all the drag brake in the ESC and turned the brake percentage down to 20%.
On top of that, I put another negative 20% expo on the throttle and negative 10% on the brake. I normally don't ever mess with expo, but this really helped to smooth out the car and made it easier to drive consistant laps.
I'm running the 1700kv motor geared 16/45 with a Thunder Power 5000 4 cell.
It was fantastic today.
omaha_racing
08-30-2009, 08:50 PM
So what are you running for shock oil now? I also put the 90 degree ramp plates in, and now it's to lazy imo.
Alex Sturgeon
08-31-2009, 08:16 AM
42.5 front and 27.5 in the rear.
SeanJones68
08-31-2009, 10:08 AM
alex, thanks for the reply, i dont have a pc so i cant get in and change anything, i only have a mac, they changed everything at the factory when i have been taking it in. im still really new to RC and im not sure what pt meant? i havent used the smart diff, but i have changed my shocks set up and oils that are all on your online setup sheets. Do you think it could be the losi batteries? also what is the PT mean?
Thanks for all your help. i just want this thing to run, cause i got out of nitro, because i thought elec. was less of a head ache! hahaha.
Thanks you.
Alex Sturgeon
08-31-2009, 12:17 PM
Sorry Sean,
PT = Personal Transponder
For your situation the next time it does that I'd check to see if your receiver light is on. Maybe run your car without the top of the receiver box so its easier to check right away.
I'm thinking there is a loss of voltage somewhere.
warpig
08-31-2009, 08:03 PM
SeanJones68...
Have you checked your LVC (Low Voltage Cutoff) settings? What is it set at? On the Xcelorin system I ran a custom setting. In order to do this you must select NiMh and set it at 3.2v per cell to be safe. The Xcelorin system has a sensitive LVC system. It is worth a shot!
Otherwise I would be concerned about your onboard BEC system. That is another thing. I have a couple ways of checking for that as well.
Keep in touch!
Ben Burtle
Moto44
08-31-2009, 08:17 PM
Has anyone ran the Smart Diff in the front of there Losi 2.0 e? And if so is it a worth while hop-up? Thanks
FangsCPO
08-31-2009, 10:37 PM
Hello has anyone had problems with there Losi 14.8 5000 pack. I understand why mine went bad. I left it on the charger after peaking and it balance discharged to zero. I think this is really a charger design flaw. Has anyone had the pack go bad for other reasons? One of the guys at the track had his go bad. I would like to buy another Losi pack but I am concerned about the reliability of these packs. I know that if something went wrong and it wasn't my fault like this last time Horizon would stand behind it. But recently I have not received replys from customer service regarding camber link issues. There are other pack brands out there but I would like to stay with Losi.
Rob Knasel
Both of my Losi Lipo Batteries went bad...not sure why. I had a 4S and a 5S. I called Horizon since I had only purchased those two batteries just this year....around April & May. I was told there is no warranty on batteries. You get what you get. If it arrives faulty they'll exchange it but if you have been using it for a while and then it goes bad. There's nothing that can be done. I'm a Losi fan, I own 3 Losi vehicles but this one experience won't change my mind about Losi, it's still a great product. Unfortunately, I now use another manufacturer's batteries who's name I won't mention due to fear of being locked out from this forum. I will say this much....they are great batteries!:D
FangsCPO
08-31-2009, 10:43 PM
Has anyone ran the Smart Diff in the front of there Losi 2.0 e? And if so is it a worth while hop-up? Thanks
I purchased the center diff to put in my Losi 8ight-E but the steel spur (48T) it comes with won't fit in that particular vehicle. The 8ight-E maxis out at 45T. I did not read that in any of the fine prints for that product so I was very disappointed. I called horizon and they told me to just change the spur gear. So much for just a easy drop in upgrade. Any idea where I can find a steel 45T or steel 44T to replace that 48T gear with that's compatible with Losi and the Smart Diff? :mad:
Casey Peck
08-31-2009, 11:56 PM
fangs...the plastic spur that you already have should bolt right up. The smart diff uses the same HD diffcase that is an option for all of the 8 series vehicles. If you would like to use a steel one Losi makes a 45T
SeanJones68
09-01-2009, 10:23 PM
Ok;
so i went to the track tonight, and low and behold, broke down again. i used all the factory losi settings on the esc, and they have set those for me time after time, like i said i cant do it because i only have a mac. so tonight it kept pausing again but for only like 20 seconds, but then i noticed on the back of the esc that the blue like was on, but also the red one was blinking! what does this mean, please help!! thank you for all the feed back, in the mean time, im going to find a pc laptop so i can take to the track!
oh and once i noticed the esc blinking, it totally stopped.
also i took out my spektrum and put in a friends buggy, and it didnt have any effect alex.
what do you guys recommend now!
thanks for all your help
Sean
Alex Sturgeon
09-01-2009, 11:24 PM
Well, the red light is the low voltage cut off. So Ben is on the right track, I think.
You can turn it off with your quick card, you don't need a PC. I would put it into Nimh mode and run long enough to see if it still quits on you.
Make sure your battery is fully charged.
If it doesn't shut down on you then I'd try a different battery with the lipo cut off turned back on. We're just trying to narrow it down.
FangsCPO
09-02-2009, 10:29 AM
That means your battery has reached its LVC (low voltage cutoff). It's time to recharge those batteries.
If your yellow light blinks it means your ESC has detected a thermal overload. It's time to let the ESC cool down. Good Luck!
SeanJones68
09-02-2009, 05:09 PM
alex, i have check those settings, and they are all there already, ill charge the batteries up, and see how it runs.
thanks fellas.
SeanJones68
09-02-2009, 05:15 PM
well i just thought that i had a charged battery, and ran 3 laps, and the blinking red light came on, so you think the batteries are bad?
warpig
09-03-2009, 08:06 AM
Either that or you have some connection problems. Did you say you run the Losi pack? It is a 25C pack which SHOULD work but I recommend a minimum of 30C and a quality pack. Hopefully Losi will be coming out with a 40C pack sometime.
Trevor Clement
09-04-2009, 05:17 AM
That 25c battery along with the Losi 1700 motor is the fastest accelerating off road vehicle I've ever driven. I actually turned my dual rate down on throttle to race it at the JBRL, which is crazy on a 4wd car. The Losi combo is more power than anyone needs, trust me.
SeanJones68
09-04-2009, 10:02 AM
Well guys, thanks for the info, but im super frustrated with this, i got away from nitro because i didnt want to tune, and now im doing it even more!! so i think im going back to nitro. if any one would like to buy my stuff let me know, the two batteries that are still good, and the esc and 2100kv motor let me know.
Thanks to all
Sean
Do you really think that it should be just plug and play? Thats what kills me about the "nitro" guys. They just think its soooo easy.
SeanJones68
09-04-2009, 06:38 PM
well when you spend 800 on just the car, 600 on batteries, 200 on a charger, all from a reputable manu. and then they cant fix the problem after taking it there 3 times, yeah it definitley pisses you off a little bit, and a little frustating. i have had it for 3 months and its only ran twice and the rest of the time is in the shop!
Dont try to be smart there jube.
Trevor Clement
09-04-2009, 08:16 PM
Dang Sean, that really sucks. It sounds like there's definitely something not working correctly somewhere in the chain of electronics. I've seen quite a few losi's running all straight out of the box without issue and it didn't take an expert to make it work, they are actually semi easy to use and maintain which is what you were looking for.
I hate to see you completely give up but I can certainly understand your frustration. Just out of curiosity, have you ever temped the motor and esc at the time it shuts down?
mrramirez
09-04-2009, 11:14 PM
What droop are you guys using? Front and back. Thanks
Trevor Clement
09-05-2009, 12:09 AM
95mm Front / 106.5mm Rear (measured from center to center of shock screws)
Jr. Woodchuck
09-05-2009, 08:57 AM
this is going to sound shallow, but i won't get the 2.0e because of the body. it looks pregnent to me. i love the stock 2.0 body on my nitro version (it's ****) but you can't get the body without the engine/tank area cut out. if losi would sell the nitro body with nothing cut out, then i would get the 2.0e.
told you, shallow!!!
SeanJones68
09-05-2009, 10:46 AM
Trevor thanks alot man, well i have temp them before, but by the time i get out there and temp there at like 60degrees i have temp them the time the car actually was running and it got up to about 94degrees.
mwall002
09-05-2009, 10:17 PM
this is going to sound shallow, but i won't get the 2.0e because of the body. it looks pregnent to me. i love the stock 2.0 body on my nitro version (it's ****) but you can't get the body without the engine/tank area cut out. if losi would sell the nitro body with nothing cut out, then i would get the 2.0e.
told you, shallow!!!
What's wrong with running the nitro body on the E?
More holes=More cooling :) :eek:
Sean, sorry you felt I was being "smart" as you called it. I was only stating a common misconception that the diehard nitro guys have towards us diehard E guys. Electric is certainly easier in most aspects, but it does have its own issues too. Im not sure what 2batteries you spent $600 on but thats a little crazy to me. Good luck sellin it.
SeanJones68
09-06-2009, 11:56 AM
well it was three at 189.99 a piece plus tax. losi batteries. total with tax 619.84 to be exact. i thought that if i went with the plug and play losi batteries i would have less problems, and it might run better. but oh well. it sold already.
mave88
09-07-2009, 05:52 PM
has anybody had the rear cvd come out of the center diff after landing a big jump. it happened this past saturday and i added some shims to the rear pinion to put the cvd deeper into the drive cup and it happened again off a big jump.I did notice the chassis does flex alot do i need to replace the rear chassis brace with the aluminum brace.the car is brand just bought this week.Thanks!!
Rick
Alex Sturgeon
09-07-2009, 10:25 PM
I have never seen that happen on any of the 8ight cars. Is it the original one that came with the car?
SeanJones68
09-08-2009, 12:43 PM
Mave-yes it happened to me once, now i had the limited first addition, which was the 1.0 8ight, race roller with all the xcelon stuff in it. so i went and bought the 2.0 drive shaft which was longer and never have had a prob.
i hope this helps or what you were talking about
warpig
09-08-2009, 08:17 PM
has anybody had the rear cvd come out of the center diff after landing a big jump. it happened this past saturday and i added some shims to the rear pinion to put the cvd deeper into the drive cup and it happened again off a big jump.I did notice the chassis does flex alot do i need to replace the rear chassis brace with the aluminum brace.the car is brand just bought this week.Thanks!!
Rick
It happened on mine once.
Rick I definately wouldnt put the aluminum chassis brace on. It is too stiff and will hurt the handling of the buggy. As I mentioned sat. I had this problem and ended up putting about 2-3mm of shims behind the rear coupling. I havent had the problem since. Also you can check out Ghea racing. They make a 2mm longer coupling to correct this problem. They make some pretty trick stuff. http://ghea.se/Losi8ight.htm
mave88
09-09-2009, 06:56 PM
Alex,
I't the new 2.0 w/tfc chassis.
Jube,
Thanks alot i will check out that web site this week,will you be at the rc proseries at jcp this weekend?
You bet! Cant wait to spend $45 to have my **** handed to me but I love the experiance!
Mr. Awsome
09-09-2009, 09:34 PM
losi should make a kit for the 8ight-e 2.0
Mr. Awsome
09-09-2009, 09:50 PM
im new to the biggeer cars and losi and just recently started getting eally into this, but how ofdten does losi make kits, cuz i wanna make one, but i dont want to get one thats gonna be replaced on the market the day after i buy it
mave88
09-10-2009, 04:26 PM
jube- see you this weekend
bohdi
09-11-2009, 07:14 PM
Mso i went and bought the 2.0 drive shaft which was longer and never have had a prob.
+1...the 2.0 rear is the answer on the 1.0
It is 2mm longer than the 1.0 rear CV
part LOSA3536
:)
dawhite1
09-13-2009, 08:08 PM
Does anyone know if the novak motors will mount in the Losi motor mount?
unseenmagik
09-16-2009, 04:10 AM
Can anyone tell me the size of the Losi 8ight-E Battery Box.
Looking at different batteries and need to see what fits.
Thanks
Ben
Dan Ross
09-16-2009, 04:48 PM
it's a little over 6.5 inches, by 2. inside the tray, actual useable space.
unseenmagik
09-17-2009, 03:28 AM
Thank You :-)
sluggoman
09-17-2009, 04:34 PM
ok...so I'm convinced I want the 8ight-e.
To race at our club, with the Nitro's, I need to last 30 minute run-time. Is there a battery that will do this?
I'm thinking
5000mAh 3S 11.1V Pro Race 40C LiPo w/Case, Deans by Thunder Power Batteries
2 run in parrallel on a 8ight-e, 2100 motor (1700 if it would get me to 30 min)
What servo is recommended?
What other hop ups and extras do I need?
I have the DX3S to run with it.
jzrevo
09-17-2009, 07:03 PM
111watt/hrs will not get you 30mins.
sluggoman
09-18-2009, 04:31 AM
111watt/hrs will not get you 30mins.
I'm not an electrical guy. How did you get to 111 watts/hr, and what does get me there?
jzrevo
09-18-2009, 09:08 AM
I'm not an electrical guy. How did you get to 111 watts/hr, and what does get me there?
V X A= W
To reach that time I have found you will need around 140-150 w/hrs
sluggoman
09-18-2009, 03:33 PM
V X A= W
To reach that time I have found you will need around 140-150 w/hrs
Rookie Needs Help.
So, what would a battery solution be. Higher volts?
Not sure how I go about figuring this out. I don't need an exact number, just a ballpark of what a solution might be.
Maybe MaxAmps Lipo 10,000 3S 11.1V Battery Pack
http://www.maxamps.com/Lipo-10000-111-Pack.htm
Or is there a Losi solution?
jzrevo
09-19-2009, 10:33 AM
Rookie Needs Help.
So, what would a battery solution be. Higher volts?
Not sure how I go about figuring this out. I don't need an exact number, just a ballpark of what a solution might be.
Maybe MaxAmps Lipo 10,000 3S 11.1V Battery Pack
http://www.maxamps.com/Lipo-10000-111-Pack.htm
Or is there a Losi solution?
Steer clear from maxamps...their battery's are garbage and way overpriced. You will need something in the 4S 9K to 10K range. Or you could go with a 6S 6500mah single pack and run a low KV motor. The latter would be better for weight.
RcWorkShopp
09-19-2009, 06:23 PM
No good on the Maxamps? I have a 1.0 buggy and doing the electric conversion on and was going to use there battery. So what would be a good battery to use in the buggy's?
jzrevo
09-20-2009, 07:19 PM
Hyperion, Turnigy, Zippy, if your on a budget, if you have the green, then Polyquest.
Boredgord
09-21-2009, 08:01 AM
what's the differences between the version 1.0 limited and the 2.0 mass production versions?
losirox
09-21-2009, 11:47 AM
I just bought an 8ight 2.0e and it is incredible !!! I am having severe heat issues to where my esc is shutting down with the thermal overload protection. Could you please tell me what might be causing this issue ??? I am going to list everything I can that I have setup on the car so you can get a better idea. Thanks :-)
Stock Losi 8ight 2.0e.....14 tooth pinion, stock spur gear, mesh set perfect, stock diff fluid, I programmed the esc with the card and it has normal timing set, 8% drag brake, full throttle, 20% brake, Losi 14.8 v LIPO batt, Set the throttle curve on my M11 to ease up the snappy feel of the motor/esc, Losi Heat Sink installed, holes cut in body for airflow, air temperature was about 85 degrees, our track is kind of short so Im on and off the throttle quite a bit, the straight is about 80 feet long, ran for about 7 minutes before it thermaled.......any other info you need I can get.
Thanks for any help you can give me. My runtime seems to be fine but it has thermalled on me twice.
Losirox
sluggoman
09-21-2009, 05:58 PM
Losirox
What kind of run time are you getting?
lowcel
09-23-2009, 06:29 AM
Just want to see if this is normal. I put the receiver and servo in then hooked the battery up. I turned the car on and it didn't do anything. I have programmed the receiver for the controller but that is it so far.
Is it normal for the car to do absolutely nothing (fan on esc kicked on for about 1/10 a second). Do I need to program the esc before anything works?
By the time I finished it was way past bed time (I get up at 5:30 am for work) so I didn't get a chance to mess with the esc any.
Y2KGTP
09-23-2009, 08:45 AM
Any chance of a Roller that really is a roller.....aka no ESC\Motor? :D
Damien
09-23-2009, 10:35 AM
Hi guys,
would ike to convert my nitro 2.0 buggy to a 2.0e. Does any1 know the part numbers so i can order the stuff i need plus any tips would be great thanks very much.
jzrevo
09-23-2009, 10:37 AM
Losi makes the conversion kit already. Its on the website.
lowcel
09-23-2009, 11:55 AM
I called Losi abot the problem I am having, they verified that it is a bad speed control. I need to send it in then they will determine if it needs to be repaired or replaced. If it is to be repaired it will take 8-10 days. If it needs to be replaced it will be longer because they are out of stock.
Any idea how happy this makes me considering how much money I have spent on this thing lately? This is a brand new car, never ran. :mad:
yeags72
09-23-2009, 02:11 PM
I know this is a VERY basic and probably really stupid question but I need to order online as I really dont have an RC store in close proximity to help me. I bought a Losi 8eight 2.0 electric. The items needed to complete are obviously a radio and battery and charger. Understanding that I am completely new to this, I am confused about this "2-Channel Radio System with High-Torque Servo". Does the high torque servo come with the radio or does that need to be purchased seperately? If it does need to be purchased seperately, do some work with certain radios? I am apologizing in advance for such a stupid question but I am hoping someone is kind enough to explain. Thanks in advance.
RcWorkShopp
09-23-2009, 03:49 PM
What is better to run a metal spur or plastic? I am doing a conversion on my Losi buggy and the kit comes with a plastic spur. But I know a few guys strip out the plastic spur but I guess that's better then blowing a diff. So is that the reason?
jzrevo
09-23-2009, 06:57 PM
What is better to run a metal spur or plastic? I am doing a conversion on my Losi buggy and the kit comes with a plastic spur. But I know a few guys strip out the plastic spur but I guess that's better then blowing a diff. So is that the reason?
I run stock spur.
lowcel
09-23-2009, 07:39 PM
I called Losi abot the problem I am having, they verified that it is a bad speed control. I need to send it in then they will determine if it needs to be repaired or replaced. If it is to be repaired it will take 8-10 days. If it needs to be replaced it will be longer because they are out of stock.
Any idea how happy this makes me considering how much money I have spent on this thing lately? This is a brand new car, never ran. :mad:
Okay, I'm an idiot. Turns out I soldered the Dean's plug lead on the esc end backwards (not out of phase, just backwards). Once I got home I messed around and figured it out. It works perfect now. I played around a little in the parking lot, the only problem I had was with the steering. It kept coming loose, I really need to pick up some threadlock.
Anyway, I just cancelled the order for the Castle Creation esc/motor. I'm going to spend some time getting used to this one and then I'll order a new one later on.
Now....do I order the electric conversion for the 8ight t???
RcHippie
09-24-2009, 05:02 PM
this is going to sound shallow, but i won't get the 2.0e because of the body. it looks pregnent to me. i love the stock 2.0 body on my nitro version (it's ****) but you can't get the body without the engine/tank area cut out. if losi would sell the nitro body with nothing cut out, then i would get the 2.0e.
told you, shallow!!!
IT wont fit ! mine was a nitro and I converted it to elc ,I had to buy a new body because the 4cells are too tall ! I have a jconcepts on mine it looks sweet!
FangsCPO
09-24-2009, 05:46 PM
I'm always curious to hear why the negative feeling towards MaxAmps? I'll admit, they are a little pricey but I've had no issues with them and I've been using them for about 3-4 months. Did you have a bad experience???
RcWorkShopp
09-24-2009, 05:51 PM
I had asked the same question. I have been running Max Amps all summer with no problem. I think they are a great battery and the people are real helpfully.
jzrevo
09-24-2009, 07:55 PM
I'm always curious to hear why the negative feeling towards MaxAmps? I'll admit, they are a little pricey but I've had no issues with them and I've been using them for about 3-4 months. Did you have a bad experience???
I have been through many different manufactures of Lipo's. If you guys want the folks that use all different types just visit rc-monster.com. That is the brushless site with the brushless racers. You won't find many having anything positive to say about maxamps...lol. They are to lipos, what Traxxas is to RC's. Great marketing.....
motivio
09-27-2009, 12:10 PM
well i just thought that i had a charged battery, and ran 3 laps, and the blinking red light came on, so you think the batteries are bad?
Same with my 8IGHT-E 2.0, since two weeks now.
I tried different batteries, but got the red light with every battery even if it's more than 50% full. LVC is set to 12.8 in my customer profile.
JO
GMS Racing
09-27-2009, 04:24 PM
Are all the Team Drivers goin to teh 1700Kv motor?? Is there a major speed dif. or is it just better throttle control
segmentfault
09-27-2009, 08:23 PM
They are to lipos, what Traxxas is to RC's. Great marketing.....
Hey! Traxxas are extremely fun and durable trucks. I wouldn't trade my stampede vxl for anything because it satisfies a craving for extreme bashing :)
Alex Sturgeon
09-28-2009, 07:23 PM
For me, the 1700 is easier to control without any real speed difference. I was under geared at first, but put the 16 tooth pinion on and now I'm very happy with the speed and response.
lowcel
09-29-2009, 06:49 AM
I drove to my local track (about 1 1/2 hours drive each way) and was able to drive my new 8-e 2 for about five minutes yesterday. It would run for a minute or so and then it would quit. I would turn it off and back on and it would run. The fan continued to work and the steering would work, just no power was getting to the motor. After a few minutes of this it quit one last time and would not come back on.
I called losi from the track and told them what was going on. The losi tech immediately told me that the esc was shot. I'm mailing the esc back to them today. :(
McKie
09-29-2009, 01:46 PM
So far I have only had a couple of issues with My 8ight e . First was the two screws that hold the front diff housing to the Chassis were stripped out. "they just came out" along with the plastic threads, just from running on the track.
I have had two servo horns strip out. but i will try and loosen the servo saver and see if that helps.
The other thing I have noticed is the buggy's weight is a factor. for the life of me i cant seem to get the ride height set to where the buggy wont slap the ground every time it takes a jump even of small size. I have tried adjusting the spring load. and even moved the shock positions. it still seams to sit real low. any suggestions?
haven't had any issues with the ESC yet. "knock on wood"
Oh yeah almost forgot . first run right off the bat the pitch pinon broke right in half at the set screw. replaced with a Robinson Racing Extra Hard Steel Mod 1 Pinion Gear and it works great. no more issues
GMS Racing
09-29-2009, 03:41 PM
I have had two servo horns strip out. but i will try and loosen the servo saver and see if that helps.
Switch to the Losi aluminum one
GMS Racing
09-30-2009, 09:02 AM
Have any of you Team Drivers tried running the 2mm hub extenders??
segmentfault
10-03-2009, 06:31 PM
I have an issue with my ESC after upgrading the firmware to F010122.01.LSC Version: 2.2 for 1/8 ESCs.
When applying reverse throttle now the wheels spin but will apply full brake when I let go of reverse throttle. The red light does not come on either when in reverse.
ANyone else having this issue? Which firmware are you running?
jamorgan29
10-05-2009, 07:38 AM
Is the 8ight-e the exact same thing as the 8ight race roller with an electric conversion kit?
I am wanting to get one but I'm wanting to choose my own motor and esc. I was thinking about getting the 8ight-e then selling the esc and motor. If they are different, then I'm going to buy the better one of the two.
lowcel
10-05-2009, 10:57 AM
Going to try my 8e-2 out again today to see if my luck is improving any. I installed the Castle Creations MMM and 2650 brushless motor. Hopefully I get to take it out longer than five minutes this time. :)
GMS Racing
10-05-2009, 03:07 PM
2650!?!?!? holy cow
lowcel
10-05-2009, 04:05 PM
2650!?!?!? holy cow
I'm closer to $3,500 now. Six cars, nine lipos, chargers, motors, parts, etc. It adds up. I'm at the track now having a blast learning how to drive again so it's all worth it. :)
GMS Racing
10-05-2009, 05:49 PM
No i ment thats a huge motor for a buggy..i just went to the 1700Kv and its soo much more drivable
Alex Sturgeon
10-05-2009, 09:38 PM
Is the 8ight-e the exact same thing as the 8ight race roller with an electric conversion kit?
I am wanting to get one but I'm wanting to choose my own motor and esc. I was thinking about getting the 8ight-e then selling the esc and motor. If they are different, then I'm going to buy the better one of the two.
If you already have an 8ight 2.0 and want to convert it over then I'd just get the conversion. If you have the older 8ight, then I'd get the 8ight 2.0 roller, so you can enjoy the geometry changes that help the car drive that much better.
Mr. Awsome
10-06-2009, 06:04 PM
what is a good completion ggudie, i mean what would i need to complete the 8ight-e 2.0 and have minimal parts breaking afterward
:)
unseenmagik
10-08-2009, 12:55 AM
what is a good completion ggudie, i mean what would i need to complete the 8ight-e 2.0 and have minimal parts breaking afterward
:)
I have been running the Losi 8ight 2.0 for a complete season.
I am yet to replace a part.
So, in answer to your question all you need is the Kit :-)
wldmoose
10-08-2009, 12:01 PM
Two things I'd like to get answered;
1. I just ordered a new 2100kv motor as a spare for my Losi 8ight E and noticed in the manual that came with it that a 13T pinion gear is recommended for use in a buggy with a 4s battery. This contradicts other documents by Losi :mad: :eek:and the rig comes with a 15T installed and recommend using a 4S battery. What is the right pinion to use with the 2.0 E buggy with a 4S battery?
2. I had to replace a spur gear in my car and when reinstalling the motor I couldn't remember which color wire goes to which connector on the ESC so I looked at some of the photos online since there are NO instruction in the manual (obvious oversight). Well, if you hook it up as per the pictures on the Losi website the motor runs in reverse. Obviously the "model" for the photos shoot wasn't vetted too well. :eek:
wldmoose
10-08-2009, 01:03 PM
A whole season without breaking a part !?!?! Hard to believe unless you don't drive hard or take jumps. I've gone through three ESC fans alone in my race season so far. broken blades, cracked braces, etc. Also had an ESC toast too with a totally stock set up.
warpig
10-12-2009, 09:27 AM
I know many people that have yet to break a part on an 8ight.
unseenmagik
10-13-2009, 03:05 AM
A whole season without breaking a part !?!?! Hard to believe unless you don't drive hard or take jumps. I've gone through three ESC fans alone in my race season so far. broken blades, cracked braces, etc. Also had an ESC toast too with a totally stock set up.
Yes, sorry i have to stand buy the build quality of Losi.
I race hard, i drive well mind ( not being smart )
Completed the Summer Series at my Local Track and a few other race's at other tracks.
Not one part broken.
Finished 1st and Won in the overall Summer Series followed home buy 2nd and 3rd also in Losi's.
Ben
Cappy
10-17-2009, 09:56 AM
I haven't seen one break yet ... RC8's on the other hand ... They break constantly.
wallbank
10-21-2009, 07:36 PM
Hi guys, I don't own a Losi vehicle as of date, but really considering buying the 8ight-E. I did my research and I was convinced that the buggy was the right choice. But at my local track an owner of an 8ight-E has had constant electrical problems and warn me not to purchase the 8ight-E. I have also read and heard about the ESC having a lot of bugs. Are these problems an issue with the buggy or just rare isolated incidents? If you own an 8ight-E, how satisfied are you and do you guys recommend it?
Ocityf1nest
10-28-2009, 07:19 AM
I have a 8ight 2.0 nitro buggy. I was thinking about converting to electric. Is it worth it or should I just get the 8ight e. What motor and speed control should I use
mister eight
11-01-2009, 03:41 PM
hey what motor setups are you guys running and what lipos . i was thinking about the tekin rx8 and some flightmax zippy batteries i have used them in my e revo and really like them but i just dont know wether to get 2 2s/3s or 1 4s/5s/6s thanks.
warpig
11-06-2009, 10:44 AM
I personally run a 1900kv motor with a 4S battery. I plan in trying a 1350kv motor and a 6S battery though. It's more efficient that way.
Kweaver
11-10-2009, 07:28 PM
We run the Tekin RX8 w/1900kv motor w/4s 5000 30c packs and the car is easy to drive and unbelievably fast. The RX8 is durable and super smooth.
racer357
11-15-2009, 07:14 PM
OK, I am going on my 5th excelroin speed control. I have three that need to be sent back now. Help us out Losi, Start using tekin or Mamba or something that is more reliable.
The longest one has lated is 6 battery packs.
swabii
11-20-2009, 01:00 AM
I just bought the 8ight E 2.0 car online and want to get a battery for it. So two questions please.
1. What is the size of the battery tray?
2. What battery size would you recomend for the car to get awsome run times and yes speed, speed, speed?
Mr. Awsome
11-26-2009, 11:53 PM
holy cow this car is a beast!!! i have a 5s lipo and 2100kv motor i recently bought it used on ebay, the seller said he could not control it because it was so fast, i didn't believe him, but at full throttle with a fully charged battery this car is un-freakin-believable!!!!!
johnperdeye
11-28-2009, 07:45 PM
Does anybody have any tips or tricks on how to keep the speed controler fan working. Mine stops and i have to spin it with my finger. Can u take them apart
swabii
12-01-2009, 01:50 AM
Does anybody have any tips or tricks on how to keep the speed controler fan working. Mine stops and i have to spin it with my finger. Can u take them apart
Try putting a few drops of shock oil on the fan shaft/bearing/bushing. i had the same problem with my rustler esc. i pulled off the sticker covering the shaft tip and put the oil on it. it's been working fine.
TrU Integra
12-19-2009, 06:02 PM
Hi guys, I don't own a Losi vehicle as of date, but really considering buying the 8ight-E. I did my research and I was convinced that the buggy was the right choice. But at my local track an owner of an 8ight-E has had constant electrical problems and warn me not to purchase the 8ight-E. I have also read and heard about the ESC having a lot of bugs. Are these problems an issue with the buggy or just rare isolated incidents? If you own an 8ight-E, how satisfied are you and do you guys recommend it?
buy a roller and convert it yourself....just because buddy's having electrical issues with HIS stuff doesn't mean you will with your's....the losi system's are somewhat plagued with issues meanwhile Tekin and Castle are getting it figured out and solved.
I have a 8ight 2.0 nitro buggy. I was thinking about converting to electric. Is it worth it or should I just get the 8ight e. What motor and speed control should I use
Tekin is Imo top of the food chain currently for ESC's.....1900 on 4S is the norm.
hey what motor setups are you guys running and what lipos . i was thinking about the tekin rx8 and some flightmax zippy batteries i have used them in my e revo and really like them but i just dont know wether to get 2 2s/3s or 1 4s/5s/6s thanks.
Zippy's are THE way to go...No sense in paying 2-3X more for a pack that's that's got a case or a fancy sticker on it.
4S 5000's or 5800's are Just Dandy for the 8ight E....30C is recommended.
I personally run a 1900kv motor with a 4S battery. I plan in trying a 1350kv motor and a 6S battery though. It's more efficient that way.
I also run the 1900 in buggy but plan to try a 6S set-up in truggy....there's a user on the tech Rx8 thread that claims 30min run time with a dual 6S 3000's set-up.
sluggoman
12-26-2009, 07:34 AM
Anyone have any idea how the 8-e would do with a 2S 8000 Max Amps? Would it be enough power to run it?
I have a 4S 5000 Losi battery, and works great. Friend of mine has the Max Amps and wanted to plug it in, but not sure if there would be a problem with the ESC going back and forth between the 4S and 2S.
Mammuth
01-05-2010, 10:53 AM
Which kind of power connectors does the Xcelorin of the eight-e have ?
Is the power connector of the Xcelorin the same of these batteries ? ->
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9963
thanks
Casper
01-05-2010, 02:47 PM
Losi uses the EC5 connectors.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=LOSB9622
rgonthier
01-08-2010, 05:17 PM
I have seen a lot of people that prefer the 1700Kv motor instead of the 2100Kv to try and "tame" the 8IGHT-E. Why is this prefered as opposed to just using a 3S battery and the 2100Kv?
Casper
01-08-2010, 05:36 PM
Losi does not make a 3S battery for the 8th scale! Just a thought. I think I would rather tune with motors then batteries if I could but that is just me.
rgonthier
01-08-2010, 05:46 PM
Yes but plenty of other people do make a 3S. What is your reasoning for tuning with motors as opposed to batteries? I am just trying to understand. Obviously, everyone else has the same thoughts. I was figuring I already had the motor and need to buy a battery so why not kill two birds with one stone???
Casper
01-08-2010, 05:58 PM
Motor's don't need any maintenance while stored. Granted lipo's are pretty storage friendly. Motors are smaller. I guess a 3S battery is less money to have around. I guess no real good reason. Never had the problem of choosing a battery for performance tuning. Kind of seems weird to me! :p
sluggoman
01-10-2010, 05:15 PM
I just puffed the 4s 5000 Losi Lipo. 7-8 cycles. Just blew the two sides of the hard case apart at the glue seam. No warning. I've been using Lipos for over a year, and never had this happen before. Are there warranties on these?
TrU Integra
01-10-2010, 06:27 PM
I just puffed the 4s 5000 Losi Lipo. 7-8 cycles. Just blew the two sides of the hard case apart at the glue seam. No warning. I've been using Lipos for over a year, and never had this happen before. Are there warranties on these?
not with a hard case....which is another reason i run soft cases. ;)
sluggoman
01-10-2010, 08:03 PM
not with a hard case....which is another reason i run soft cases. ;)
I'm trying to figure out if I have the right connectors for the Zippy Lipo - the balancer. My 8-e ESC has the ec5, so I'll need to reconfigure I guess or get some type adapter. i'll need to address both plugs, I guess.
TrU Integra
01-10-2010, 09:41 PM
I'm trying to figure out if I have the right connectors for the Zippy Lipo - the balancer. My 8-e ESC has the ec5, so I'll need to reconfigure I guess or get some type adapter. i'll need to address both plugs, I guess.
im not a fan of the Ec5's or w/e there called...i perfer deans. ;)
Casper
01-11-2010, 11:07 AM
I'm trying to figure out if I have the right connectors for the Zippy Lipo - the balancer. My 8-e ESC has the ec5, so I'll need to reconfigure I guess or get some type adapter. i'll need to address both plugs, I guess.
You can always change the plugs. This would void what ever warrenty there is on the battery (not much of one to begin with so not much lost there) but I try and make all my batteries the same plug. The EC series of plugs are great low loss connectors but outside of losi they are not common. A deans will be more universal and have not problems handling the load. They have been the industry standard for decades now.
catogtp
01-13-2010, 07:32 AM
I just bought a 2.0 roller and have a brand new RX8 2050kv kit ready to go in it. Have any of you used this motor and esc combo? If so what batteries are you using? The previous replies have me thinking i should have gone for the 1700 instead.
TrU Integra
01-13-2010, 08:34 AM
I just bought a 2.0 roller and have a brand new RX8 2050kv kit ready to go in it. Have any of you used this motor and esc combo? If so what batteries are you using? The previous replies have me thinking i should have gone for the 1700 instead.
i run a 1900kv with great success and run on 4S.....for buggy i feel 4S is right at home. ;)
catogtp
01-13-2010, 05:44 PM
Do you think 2050 will be much different over the 1700 and 1900? I've been thinking about grabbing 3s and 4s packs but don't want to waste money on something I wont use.
TrU Integra
01-13-2010, 06:05 PM
Do you think 2050 will be much different over the 1700 and 1900? I've been thinking about grabbing 3s and 4s packs but don't want to waste money on something I wont use.
gear it accordingly and it will be very similar to the 1900...go 4S for your packs....3S wont cut it and will overwork the pack. :)
Mammuth
01-16-2010, 11:51 AM
i run a 1900kv with great success and run on 4S.....for buggy i feel 4S is right at home. ;)
I have just ordered a Losi 2.0 , a Losi electric conversion kit and a Tekin 1900 combo.
Is the 15t pinion the best one to start from having also zippies 4s 40c 5000mah on average tracks ?
Thanks
TrU Integra
01-16-2010, 12:37 PM
I have just ordered a Losi 2.0 , a Losi electric conversion kit and a Tekin 1900 combo.
Is the 15t pinion the best one to start from having also zippies 4s 40c 5000mah on average tracks ?
Thanks
perfect set-up if you ask me...near identical to what i run.
If you want a little more speed you can either go up a tooth on the pinion or drop a couple teeth on the spur...i currently run 15/44
DHMotorsports
01-18-2010, 05:49 PM
Hi guys. Just getting the 2.0 ready for the summer. Had a silly question what are you all using to clean the buggy after a day in the dirt? Mostly raced carpet but this looks to be a very fun class. Thanks.
Hiperflyer2
01-19-2010, 10:40 PM
I just use Windex or almost any glass cleaner as this will take off the mud and dust and when it dries it doesnt leave any film. Some cleaners leave a smoky looking film on the parts.
Mike
DHMotorsports
01-20-2010, 06:58 AM
Thank you mike. I will give that a try.
Todd Hodge
01-26-2010, 07:26 PM
If it is really dirty I will spray the car down with simple green and then brush it off with a paint brush and compressed air. After that I will take Pledge and spray the car (not electronics) and compressed air. The car will have a nice shine. Endust also works well.
chadmillikan
01-27-2010, 08:44 AM
look at the Kal Gard forum. There product are really good for rc application. They come from a MX background, and are getting into RC, They are sponsoring a lot of guys including Ryan Lutz
Casper
01-27-2010, 09:51 AM
Looks like there is a lot more of that. Cross sponorship. Traxxas is in offroad trucks and now supercross. Losi is in supercross now. It should all help the R/C hobby
dave henry
01-28-2010, 10:08 PM
If it is really dirty I will spray the car down with simple green and then brush it off with a paint brush and compressed air. After that I will take Pledge and spray the car (not electronics) and compressed air. The car will have a nice shine. Endust also works well.
this method works really well, havn't tried the kalgard stuff yet (though it is getting great reviews) but "pledge with protection+" has something in it that really keeps stuff from sticking
hi todd how you doing? going to the nitro challenge in a few weeks?
Casper
02-02-2010, 10:09 AM
Well I wanted to post some testing I have been doing. I have been running the 2100KV motor on 3S lately with great results. Still lots of power but also still very controllable. Motor and ESC temps are very low. I have only run on a relativly small indoor track (130X60) but I could not be happier with the results. For a super light setup you can run the Losi 3S 3200 30C battery which I was getting 7 min races out of no problem. I am currently using a Dynamite 3S 5300 25C battery that is larger and heavier but still lighter then a 4S setup but will get much longer runtime out of. I feel this a a great option for anyone getting a 8ight 2.0 and just getting into the hobby. Conservative gearing makes the car very easy to drive. Gear it up for more power and speed and you should have not problems keeping up with anyone on med to smaller tracks.
Still tweaking the setup of the car but I think the kit setup is pretty darn close. Definately one of the better kit setups I have run.
DHMotorsports
02-04-2010, 11:08 AM
Thanks for the replies guys. On a different note I have been lookin at batteries and someone made a coment to stay away from a deans style connector. It fuses together and won't carry the load. Anyone have or had this happen? Thanks
Casper
02-04-2010, 12:08 PM
That is BS. I have never seen it happen and have been using deans for over 15 years.
I run 3S 2100kv in my 8ight-e and stuff bearly gets warm. I think the only reason it is warm is the connector is layed against the battery that gets warm. 3S high KV will pull more amps then 4S lower KV will. Higher voltage draw less amps to produce the same power.
I call BS on this one. The only connectors to stay away from are tamiya. Those will melt together just looking at them. (ok that was an exaguration) but they still suck! LOL I have seen lots of those melt down in 10th scale cars.
dave henry
02-04-2010, 11:13 PM
Thanks for the replies guys. On a different note I have been lookin at batteries and someone made a coment to stay away from a deans style connector. It fuses together and won't carry the load. Anyone have or had this happen? Thanks
original "deans" connectors work well, just stay away from the cloned deans plugs, they are usually much cheaper and a darker red color, they are the ones that melt!
fyi the losi ec5 connector works flawlessly
DHMotorsports
02-13-2010, 07:12 AM
Thanks Todd, Thanks Casper. Sorry for so many questions. I got one more.. For now. What JR servo do you guys use in your buggies? How much torque do you really need? All the ones I have are digital High Speed from the touring car days. I dont think they will be enough to have a very long life in the buggy.. Thanks for all the help guys..
Casper
02-13-2010, 08:56 AM
JR Z9100s is what I would use from the JR line. .06 at 180oz.
I would look for something .1 or faster and at least 150 oz of torque.
RcWorkShopp
02-14-2010, 05:37 AM
Casper
I had posted this on another thread but just in case it does not get answered.
I just installed the conversion kit into my Nitro Losi 8ight Buggy 1.0. I would like to use the stock metal spur gear that I have been running. I know a lot of guys are stripping the plastic that comes with the kit.
My question Is can you please give me a direction as to what pinion gear to use or what tooth count to start with. I will be using a 2650kv.
Also are the pitch the same as the metal spur that comes stock on the buggy and the plastic spur that comes with the conversion.
Thanks
Randy
Casper
02-14-2010, 10:31 AM
The pitch is the same. I am not sure the stock 48 will fit in the car. With the diff flipped for the electric conversion and the cover that goes on the chassis I am not sure you can get that big a spur on the car. I have not tried though so..... The plastic spurs are holding up great for me. I don't run the rear motor support as I have heard some people have not had luck with it. Regardless I have not had a single issue with the losi plastic spur so far.
I also have not run a 2650 so I am no certain a good starting gear. Are you on 3S or 4S?
For 3S I would start around 17/45 and adjust from there based on motor and ESC temps.
RcWorkShopp
02-14-2010, 11:18 AM
Thanks for the responds. I have made a small spacer to make up for the difference in size for the spur gear. Maybe the rear mount is messing people up with the spur. I will install the plastic spur and try it with out the mount. I am not sure as to what battery I am using.
I do have two 2s Lipo that I was going to use together but need to check if it will fit.
As for the pinion I will use what comes with the kit and like you said check temps. I will only be using the buggy for racing so 8 min is the longest it will run for.
Thanks again for your help
Casper
02-14-2010, 12:17 PM
4s with the 2650 I would gear way down. 15 would be a good starting point but may be a little tall still I would expect you down in the 13 range.
johnboy
02-15-2010, 02:34 AM
Hi All,
Just want to know what the wider wheel hexes does to the handling of the car and if they are worth investing in. If they are which ones should I get, the 2mm or 1/2"?
Thanks,
John
TrU Integra
02-15-2010, 08:39 AM
Hi All,
Just want to know what the wider wheel hexes does to the handling of the car and if they are worth investing in. If they are which ones should I get, the 2mm or 1/2"?
Thanks,
John
the 2mm's are the one's you want if anything...the 1/2" are for the 1.0 Truggy user that wanted to run zero off set wheels.
Ive ran the 2mm's all around in buggy for quite some time but am going to try just in the rear for once to see how it feels....on all 4 corner's they basically made the buggy a little more stable.
Doin12volt
02-15-2010, 08:46 AM
I saw this asked earlier, and was wondering myself; Aside from the improved ackerman plate, and a bit of legnth - what are the differences between the 8ight 1.0 and 2.0?
TrU Integra
02-15-2010, 08:54 AM
I saw this asked earlier, and was wondering myself; Aside from the improved ackerman plate, and a bit of legnth - what are the differences between the 8ight 1.0 and 2.0?
quite a bit....from new metallurgy on the drive train to upgraded longer(2mm) chassis with droop stops...new body, rear diff case, rear diff inserts, new towers, more camber holes where we need them, Spring retainers, Center diff mount, radio tray, linkages......i think that's it. ;)
Doin12volt
02-15-2010, 12:42 PM
Well, here is another question.. Figure I am an "old school" racer - I used to race JRX2's and JRXT's (of which I still have) along with 3 XXT's...
That is beside the point - My question is;
I just purchased a "like new" 8ight 1.0 T-E It has the Novak Pro 6.5 brushless setup, a Turnigy 5000 mah 14.8 lipo and a losi Spektrum radio - I got it all for 500.00 - Is that a good deal?? I thought it was.
Here is a link to everything:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300396114687&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Next question;
Given this is a "bone stock" 8ight, what should I look for in terms of upgrades (such as the aluminum ackerman plate) and what are the weak points I should watch out for? I am open to any input!
johnboy
02-16-2010, 12:35 AM
the 2mm's are the one's you want if anything...the 1/2" are for the 1.0 Truggy user that wanted to run zero off set wheels.
Ive ran the 2mm's all around in buggy for quite some time but am going to try just in the rear for once to see how it feels....on all 4 corner's they basically made the buggy a little more stable.
thanks, let me know how it goes with just the rears in.
johnboy
02-16-2010, 02:48 AM
What should I be putting on the wheel bearings on the 8-e 2.0, grease or oil? And does any one recommend something good? if its grease would i need to apply both sides or just one going into the spindle?
Many Thanks
Casper
02-16-2010, 10:20 AM
You should not need to add anything from the get go. If you clean out the bearings as part of maintance then I would put a drop or two of bearing oil back in the bearings but that is it.
johnboy
02-16-2010, 12:53 PM
thanks, just want to check.
chadmillikan
02-19-2010, 12:52 PM
Check out my rig for 2010
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RcWorkShopp
02-21-2010, 06:46 PM
Has anybody used the Life Packs in there buggy? I know they are safer then Lipos but I was told they are a heavy battery. I will only be racing my buggy so no more then 10 minutes at a time.
Casper
02-21-2010, 10:54 PM
I am not sure they are a lot heavier? They are lower voltage. I don't see why they would not work.
wildchild74
02-22-2010, 08:12 AM
gearing question on using the electric conversion kit in the eight t 2.0 truggy. what center spur gear should i use for the truggy? the 50 tooth spur thay comes with the roller, or the 45 tooth that comes in the electric conversion kit? i have a tekin rx8 esc with a 2000kv truggy motor. im using the 45t spur and 15t pinion now, but run time is between 9-11 mins. im using max amps battery packs. 6500ma 4s 60c. would like to get a litle more run time so i could try to do a 15 min main. thanks in advance.
Casper
02-22-2010, 10:14 AM
Gear down and go 5S on the battery or motor down. I am not sure how low the Tekin motors go? I am a little suprised you can't get more runtime but it would depend on the track size as well. I can get 10+ with a 5300 3S on my losi 2100 no problem. It is a buggy though.
wildchild74
02-22-2010, 12:54 PM
should i run the 50t spur or 45t spur?
Casper
02-22-2010, 02:26 PM
If the 50 fits run it. It is a lower gear which should be better for runtime and motor temps.
RcWorkShopp
02-22-2010, 03:20 PM
Gear down and go 5S on the battery or motor down. I am not sure how low the Tekin motors go? I am a little suprised you can't get more runtime but it would depend on the track size as well. I can get 10+ with a 5300 3S on my losi 2100 no problem. It is a buggy though.
Why do you say to go to a 5s battery? Does having a higher voltage change run time. I thought the MAH determined the length of run time. Like the question you answered for me about the Life packs I am trying to find a good battery to use.
Casper
02-22-2010, 06:24 PM
Higher voltage batteries allow you to gear the motor way down and still go the same speed with less amp draw.
Doin12volt
02-22-2010, 07:02 PM
Casper... You seem to be the man here;
I am running a Novak HV esc with a Novak HV 5.5 - 45T spur, 13T Pinion. I have gone through the truck, top to bottom and made absolute sure all gears mesh perfectly with no binding, and without the motor you can roll the truck almost silently. However; When you mount the motor to the mount and let it free spin, it sounds silky smooth, but no matter how I adjust it (pinion to spur) , the truck sounds horrible (almost like a chain drive) when driven - I have seen other people with 8ight 2.0's that are almost silent while running-- What am I doing wrong?
Also, on an 8ight T-E 1.0, if I want to use the longer 2.0 Chassis, What else will I need for the conversion? The Front and rear Driveshafts? Is that all?
One last thing, I heard that the 8ight 2.0 steering rack has less slop, and better bushings than the 1.0- should I change to a 2.0 steering rack? Any other 2.0 parts I should consider upgrading to?
I really appreciate any help!!!
-Josh
Casper
02-22-2010, 07:32 PM
I wish I could help more with all your questions but I only have answers for some of them.
Some motors make some pretty aweful noises when the are turned in the car. I have noticed 2 pole motors like the novak or the RTR Orion motor seem to be really loud when you roll them. The Losi motor is a 4 pole motor so it spins a little more free without power and is more quiet. The other thing is depending on what pinion you have it may be a mod 1 pinion but some brands mesh better then others. Also are you using a plastic spur?
The only thing you should need for the 2.0 chassis is the rear drive shaft. It is my understanding the length was all added to the rear of the car. (I know this is the case for the buggy).
They did redo the 2.0 steering rack but I never ran the 1.0 so I don't know what all is different. I know there were a lot of little changes though.
The towers are different, caster block and hubs are different. There are other little things as well but can't think of them right now.
Doin12volt
02-22-2010, 07:54 PM
Wow, Thanks for the quick reply!!
It must be the motor then, I have a Castle Creations in another car and it is almost silent!
I am running the metal spur and pinion.. Would a Nylon one hold up?
Thanks again!
Frank Root
02-22-2010, 08:01 PM
Just stopping in to see if anyone has any questions currently?
Casper
02-22-2010, 08:40 PM
Wow, Thanks for the quick reply!!
It must be the motor then, I have a Castle Creations in another car and it is almost silent!
I am running the metal spur and pinion.. Would a Nylon one hold up?
Thanks again!
I think the castles are 4 pole as well. The plastic ones are holding up fine in my car. One thing though I took out the rear motor support. (the one that bolts to the chassis). I have read some places on the boards of people stripping out spurs when they use the rear motor support so I took mine out first thing and have run 10+ race days now with no issues at all. Works great!
RcWorkShopp
02-23-2010, 03:23 PM
I am looking at getting a servo for my buggy. I have one but it only puts out 130 oz in. I was told I should look for one that puts out at least 200. I always ran 1/10 scale so never really worried about how strong a steering servo was. So what do you guys think.
Thanks.
Casper
02-23-2010, 03:31 PM
It might be a little under powered but not bad. One of the guys at my local track runs a futaba with 140+ oz of torque and it works great for him. Reall would not want to go lower then that. I would think 150+ is the range I would want to be in but give it shot and see how it works. I hope it is metal gear at least!
RcWorkShopp
02-23-2010, 03:38 PM
It's a hs-645mg hitec. I think it would be fine too. But will get a new one and keep this as a back-up.
I was installing the rx in the buggy and It's sure is a tight fit. You would think they would have made it bigger.
Casper
02-23-2010, 03:45 PM
The 3300T reciever is on the large side for todays recievers. I was able to put my personal transponder in the box with my 3100 spektrum reciever. It is a very tight fit but works. Why waste the space if you don't need to!
Doin12volt
02-23-2010, 09:24 PM
Ok, One other thing that is driving mee crazy--
How do you figure out what motor you have? I know they have wound motors (like a 19 turn double) and brushless, like the novak 5.5, or a castle creations 5700kv - but HOW do they relate?
What is (as an example) a Novak 5.5 in terms of "wound motors" or as opposed to a 2200KV?!?
Like how does a "10.5" brushless equal a 19 turn wound motor, and what would be the KV rated equivelent?
as in;
10.5 brushless = 19T wound motor = ????KV
5.5 brushless = ??T wound motor = ????KV
Sorry - its just confusing, and as I am trying to get back into racing, I need to know this so I can purchase equipment for the appropriate class I am running - Back when I raced, it was STOCK motors with an Non-adjustable endbell, or MODIFIED motors with different winds and adjustable timing... thats all! LOL
I have been over/under/through R.O.A.R. 's website looking for this info, and I still have nothing!
If there is a thread somewhere you can point me to - that would be great, or if someone here has personal knowledge feel free to set me straight - I really wish there was a chart of some sort..
ARRRGH!
Casper
02-23-2010, 09:33 PM
Most all SENSORED motors are rated in turns (17.5, 10.5, 5.5 etc)
Most SENSORLESS motors are rated in KV. Now this is not always true and you can find sensored motors with KV rating listed with them as you can run sensored motor sensorless if you speed control can run sensorless but you cannot run a sensorless motor with a sensored only motor.
Confused yet?
For 8th scale most all the motors are rated in KV. At least the Losi, Tekin and CC motors are. Novak is one of the few that use turns. There web site will give a KV rating for all there motors for comparison.
Frank Root
02-23-2010, 10:42 PM
For servos, I generally look at higher torque as highr reliability. I would start at atleast 150 or so, then find a speed at or under .11-.12 @ 6.0V. Just about every brand has one, and JR's 9100S should work great.
Doin12volt
02-23-2010, 11:53 PM
Most all SENSORED motors are rated in turns (17.5, 10.5, 5.5 etc).
So how does a 10th scale 10.5 Turn (or 4200KV) equal a 19 Turn Brushed Motor?
The reason I ask, Is our "semi" Local track runs a truck class, and they allow ONLY 10.5T brushless or 19T Brushed.. Doesnt this REALLY give the advantage to the brushless guys turning 30,240 rpm @ 7.2 volts VS a 19 turn, since a 17 Turn brushed motor with the same power turns roughly 30,000 rpm?
Wouldnt this mean theat a 19 turn would only be turning around 22k rpm?
Casper
02-24-2010, 09:13 AM
I feel the 19T is closer to a 13.5. It is really kind of hard to gudge though. From what I have seen the 19T will have a little more top then a 13.5 but the 13.5 will have bottom end. The 19T will also fade more at the end of run.
10.5 I feel is a bit faster then 19T.
If you can aford the jump go brushless. The motors will last a lot longer and you don't need to worry about cutting the com and replacing the brushes.
Right now for 10th scale classes all spec (stock and superstock) classes require sensored motors only. All sensorless motors are considered modified.
TrU Integra
02-24-2010, 10:03 AM
Just stopping in to see if anyone has any questions currently?
good run this past weekend at the Challenge Frank. :)
wish i could have ran some more but the cards were dealt and i played with the hand i had.:p
Frank Root
02-25-2010, 12:18 AM
good run this past weekend at the Challenge Frank. :)
wish i could have ran some more but the cards were dealt and i played with the hand i had.:p
I did have alot of fun. I hear what you are saying, I felt like that in a few runs in nitro..lol
Doin12volt
03-02-2010, 09:14 PM
Ok.. Still clueless on the whole 1/8th scale truggy rules.. I want to be able to race in ROAR sanctioned events, but the whole motor/esc question is not making it any easier.
WHAT are the rules / guidelines for motor classes in this class?
I currently have a NOVAK HV ESC with the NOVAK 5.5 - supposedly a 3700KV motor.
I have heard great things about the Losi Excelorin systems, as well as the Tekin RX8.
Here is the question I have... Is the novak the fastest, too fast or what, because of the ratings:
Novak 5.5 = 3700 KV (supposedly)
Losi Excelorin (fastest) 2400 KV
Tekin RX8 (fastest) 2650 KV
What gives? I want to be competitive, with the other guys rinning 8ights, (one has a Mamba Monster With CC motor (size unknown) and another guy runs the Tekin setup (again, size unknown) but at the same time, I dont want to show up at the track with something illegal or rated "super stupid modified" LOL
Im not to fond of the Novak, as it sounds like a chainsaw when it runs... Bleh.
What the most frustrating thing is ; Is that I am finally to a stage in my life where I can afford to buy what I "need" to race, when I want, but cant seem to figure out what it is!
Casper
03-03-2010, 12:59 AM
I don't think there is a motor limit in the roar rules. Only a battery limit. (4S) As far as I have seen ROAR does not recognize electric Truggy as a class yet. Only electric buggy.
As for motors. It is hard to compare apples to apples. The losi motors are 670 4 pole. I know the novaks are 550 and I think 2 pole. (thus the chainsaw sound).
Assuming you were on 4S a losi 1700 or 2100 will be a lot of motor. I can't even think about how hard it would be to control the 2400 on 4S!
I have seen a few of the tekin 1900 on 4s and those are a ton of motor. No issues showing up to the track and feeling out motored. There may be faster cars out there but controlling them is a whole different ball game.
I would go to your local track and look around and see what guys are running. Make sure you ask about batteries as well! At our indoor tracks there are 3S and 4S guys and the motors they choose are usually related to the batteries they are using. (high KV motors usually are on 3S and lower KV motors are on 4S) If you find someone with a high KV motor on 4S watch them on the track and see if they can control the power! ;)
lomdel
03-30-2010, 04:26 AM
I recently converted a slightly used 8ight 2.0 Race Roller with the Losi BL conversion kit and installed a CC Mamba Monster 2200kv system with a 13T pinion and the 45T spur of the kit and running off 4S 5000mah 40C lipos. She runs great and I took 2nd over-all at the recent 1st round of the South African Nationals. The buggy is quite heavy, so I would like to know what suspension set-ups you guys run her on? Oil, springs, piston nrs., ride height, etc...
lomdel
03-30-2010, 05:36 AM
IT wont fit ! mine was a nitro and I converted it to elc ,I had to buy a new body because the 4cells are too tall ! I have a jconcepts on mine it looks sweet!
4S fits just fine under the stock nitro body. Only mods to the stock body needed are two little holes for the motor-wires and the motor-mount. See pic of mine... The nitro body allows for some serious cooling to your electrics. If you don't like that, opt for the Pro-Line Slipstream body. It's got a lot more ventilation than the stock Losi 8E body.
Frank Root
04-02-2010, 10:30 AM
I recently converted a slightly used 8ight 2.0 Race Roller with the Losi BL conversion kit and installed a CC Mamba Monster 2200kv system with a 13T pinion and the 45T spur of the kit and running off 4S 5000mah 40C lipos. She runs great and I took 2nd over-all at the recent 1st round of the South African Nationals. The buggy is quite heavy, so I would like to know what suspension set-ups you guys run her on? Oil, springs, piston nrs., ride height, etc...
We are running 42.5 oil in the front, with 30wt in the rear. I also went to a black rear spring. If you are running on a well groomed track, you can also ditch the mud guards to save a little extra weight :cool:
Hate2Looz
04-04-2010, 08:02 AM
For setup, I am currently running the out of the box nitro car's setup as I just got my new
nitro race roller this past Friday, took it out of the box, pulled the nitro goodies, bolted in
my E goodies and started running it. I was running the setup that Frank listed, in my old 2.0B but found it to push too much on power and very twitchy feeling, for my tastes. The base nitro setup
feels extremely well planted to me. I am also still stuck indoors, on a smooth high bite
clay track, as the weather is still not fully co-operating here in Michigan for outdoor season
to start so....??
I will be giving the setup that Frank listed another try as soon as the big outdoor tracks start opening up around here. :D
Chromedome
04-05-2010, 11:57 AM
Ran my new 8ight e yesterday, and was getting intermittent screeching when I applied the throttle. This was also showing no movement of the pinion gear.I'm not sure if this just a no-load thing with the motor, but it seemed to happen a few times on the track just after being marshaled. Any ideas?
Chromedome
04-05-2010, 12:25 PM
Have someone pit you and change out to a new battery. Sure your pit stop will be slow, but you'll only have to make one stop
Frank Root
04-06-2010, 03:16 PM
For setup, I am currently running the out of the box nitro car's setup as I just got my new
nitro race roller this past Friday, took it out of the box, pulled the nitro goodies, bolted in
my E goodies and started running it. I was running the setup that Frank listed, in my old 2.0B but found it to push too much on power and very twitchy feeling, for my tastes. The base nitro setup
feels extremely well planted to me. I am also still stuck indoors, on a smooth high bite
clay track, as the weather is still not fully co-operating here in Michigan for outdoor season
to start so....??
I will be giving the setup that Frank listed another try as soon as the big outdoor tracks start opening up around here. :D
That is the setup I am currently running indoors. It has been really good for me.
The one thing I notice, is the car either likes to be driven very hard, or smooth, but not really in the middle.
Ran my new 8ight e yesterday, and was getting intermittent screeching when I applied the throttle. This was also showing no movement of the pinion gear.I'm not sure if this just a no-load thing with the motor, but it seemed to happen a few times on the track just after being marshaled. Any ideas?
I would double check all of the solder connections between the motor and ESC. Even if they look good, they could be cold, and not supplying adequate power.
Mammuth
04-08-2010, 09:45 AM
To the most experienced ones, which are the most fragile parts to buy in order to approach a race with at least a bunch of parts ready to change in case of most frequent damages ?
Thanx
DALLEN
04-08-2010, 07:16 PM
I am soon to order an 8-e and would like to know if the protek batt I want to get would fit.(w x l x h is 51 x 165 x 52mm) the Losi batt on the site pic is 45.2 x 160 x 48mm which is pretty close but if there's not much extra available space pretty close wouldn't count. Any help would be much appreciated.
Frank Root
04-09-2010, 12:37 AM
To the most experienced ones, which are the most fragile parts to buy in order to approach a race with at least a bunch of parts ready to change in case of most frequent damages ?
Thanx
I would test the shock standoffs (titanium ones won't break), shock boots, spur gears, front spindles, rear hubs (get the aluminum ones and you won't break them ever) and hub bearings (small and large), and a front tranny case. Ofcourse other things can break, but if you broke something not on the list, I'd be a little suprised.;)
TrU Integra
04-09-2010, 05:58 PM
I am soon to order an 8-e and would like to know if the protek batt I want to get would fit.(w x l x h is 51 x 165 x 52mm) the Losi batt on the site pic is 45.2 x 160 x 48mm which is pretty close but if there's not much extra available space pretty close wouldn't count. Any help would be much appreciated.
$ for $ I suggest Not going the Protek route.....there's cheaper alternative's that will perform just the same if not better.
DALLEN
04-10-2010, 04:51 PM
trU Integra what 4s lipo would you recommend?
TrU Integra
04-10-2010, 07:08 PM
trU Integra what 4s lipo would you recommend?
Zippy or Turnigy
Frank Root
04-12-2010, 11:47 AM
trU Integra what 4s lipo would you recommend?
The new Losi 40c 5000mah (LOSB9874) is what I have been running, it is an awesome pack. I would suggest a hard cased battery for sure though.
TrU Integra
04-12-2010, 12:30 PM
I personally feel hard cases are not required as 1/8 battery tray's provide a lot of protection as long as you use foam where needed, a piece of velcro to keep the pack in place and obviously keep your pack straps reasonable tight.
I Also don't like the fact you cant physically see the cells...if 1 were to balloon slightly it would be impossible to know unless you take your case on and off ever other charge cycle.
Frank have you ever ran a cheap Zippy or Turnigy ? can you honestly justify the price difference from 1 to the other....I sure cant.
DALLEN
04-12-2010, 07:18 PM
I agree that the hard case is probably not needed in an 1/8 buggy, but unfortunately I would not be able to run a soft pack at my local track due to there strict adherence to ROAR rules. Which opens up a hole another bag that I could go on forever about. I know the protek's are a little hi but I have had good luck with them in 1/10 scale and do most purchasing through A-Main. Really hope 1/8 e takes off, I have ran nitro for years but like the fact you do not need a person to pit you for mains. Getting old sucks, 10-20min mains are about all the time I can concentrate or stand these days.
Frank Root
04-13-2010, 12:27 AM
I personally feel hard cases are not required as 1/8 battery tray's provide a lot of protection as long as you use foam where needed, a piece of velcro to keep the pack in place and obviously keep your pack straps reasonable tight.
I Also don't like the fact you cant physically see the cells...if 1 were to balloon slightly it would be impossible to know unless you take your case on and off ever other charge cycle.
Frank have you ever ran a cheap Zippy or Turnigy ? can you honestly justify the price difference from 1 to the other....I sure cant.
I have some experience with Zippy and Turnigy packs from our local airplane crew. I really like the idea of a product atleast being backed and serviced in the US. If you get a back Zippy or Turnigy battery, you are looking to get another pack. For example, if I was choosing a soft pack lipo (which I don't recommend for car applications), the Hyperion batteries seem to be better than Zippy and Turnigy in most catagories, they are backed in the US by Empire RC, and are not priced much higher than the other packs, not to mention, no overseas shipping.
That is just me though, personal opinion.
TrU Integra
04-13-2010, 09:03 AM
I have some experience with Zippy and Turnigy packs from our local airplane crew. I really like the idea of a product atleast being backed and serviced in the US. If you get a back Zippy or Turnigy battery, you are looking to get another pack. For example, if I was choosing a soft pack lipo (which I don't recommend for car applications), the Hyperion batteries seem to be better than Zippy and Turnigy in most catagories, they are backed in the US by Empire RC, and are not priced much higher than the other packs, not to mention, no overseas shipping.
That is just me though, personal opinion.
$ for $ tho your paying 1/4 the price of the name brands and personally i would NEVER spend 4X as much to get a warranty that wont do you much good past the first month or so...Yes if a zippy or turnigy fails your more then likely going to just cough up the $$ for a new pack.....but at least its 50$ Vs 200$....overseas shipping is Just as expensive as shipping up to canada from the US...so that really doesn't bother me at all...Also the fact they show up as "toy car parts" and you don't get charged duties and other fees normally associated with ordering from the US.
shadylosi8
04-14-2010, 09:13 AM
is there a reason why the E 8ight is out of stock everywhere and on horizons site it says temp out of production? are they reviseing it?
TrU Integra
04-14-2010, 09:21 AM
is there a reason why the E 8ight is out of stock everywhere and on horizons site it says temp out of production? are they reviseing it?
it says Out of stock on horizon's site....not "temp out of production" am i missing something ?
Casper
04-14-2010, 09:34 AM
I have heard they are not going to continue offering the car as a roller with electronics anymore. Currently you will have to convert a nitro car with the electric conversion. I am hoping they will offer the car without electronics in the near future as a roller but not sure what the plans are. The 8ight-E is a highly successful electric 8th scale is still fully supported for electric parts but will be offered only as a conversion at this time.
Frank Root
04-14-2010, 10:40 AM
$ for $ tho your paying 1/4 the price of the name brands and personally i would NEVER spend 4X as much to get a warranty that wont do you much good past the first month or so...Yes if a zippy or turnigy fails your more then likely going to just cough up the $$ for a new pack.....but at least its 50$ Vs 200$....overseas shipping is Just as expensive as shipping up to canada from the US...so that really doesn't bother me at all...Also the fact they show up as "toy car parts" and you don't get charged duties and other fees normally associated with ordering from the US.
That is cool, your opinion. I disagree, my opinion. At least we can agree on the car :D
TrU Integra
04-14-2010, 11:11 AM
That is cool, your opinion. I disagree, my opinion. At least we can agree on the car :D
ya like the old saying about opinion's lol :)
shadylosi8
04-14-2010, 11:23 AM
it says Out of stock on horizon's site....not "temp out of production" am i missing something ?
ya if you click on it on horizon's site it says out of stock and in red it says temp out of prodution
TrU Integra
04-14-2010, 12:15 PM
ya if you click on it on horizon's site it says out of stock and in red it says temp out of prodution
hrmm i see it now...Interesting...maybe drop drake or truhe a msg in their personal threads....they might have an answer.
$899.99
List: $1,349.99
Temporarily out of production.
LOSA0806 by Losi
Due Late June, 2010
I think Casper's explanation makes sense.
shadylosi8
04-14-2010, 01:14 PM
ya thats what im thinking.. idk i guess we will see
Frank Root
04-15-2010, 02:09 AM
I called and talked to someone in the know today. The Spring Season, combined with the success of the Roller Rebate program really jst caught them off guard. They ran out of stock much quicker than expected.
TrU Integra
04-15-2010, 08:16 AM
I called and talked to someone in the know today. The Spring Season, combined with the success of the Roller Rebate program really jst caught them off guard. They ran out of stock much quicker than expected.
Awesome..thx for the "Inside" info Frank.
Chromedome
04-16-2010, 11:25 PM
I would double check all of the solder connections between the motor and ESC. Even if they look good, they could be cold, and not supplying adequate power.
solder connections all look good. I tried setting up the radio with it again. That went fine. But when I turned the spd back on and hit the throttle (with the buggy on a stand) it immediately went into that horrific screech mode. Running it at Pro series this weekend, but fear I may have a bad motor.
Frank Root
04-18-2010, 10:08 PM
solder connections all look good. I tried setting up the radio with it again. That went fine. But when I turned the spd back on and hit the throttle (with the buggy on a stand) it immediately went into that horrific screech mode. Running it at Pro series this weekend, but fear I may have a bad motor.
You may. It is hard to diagnose for sure without seeing it. If you need a new motor, be sure to try the 1700kv instead, it works great.
Chromedome
04-20-2010, 03:31 PM
You may. It is hard to diagnose for sure without seeing it. If you need a new motor, be sure to try the 1700kv instead, it works great.
well it ran okay (I actually finished 4th in the main) it was mentioned that such might be caused because it is a sensor-less motor. I did notice a few times that it hesitated when going from stop to start (basically me having to release the trigger and re-throttle) Haven't played with the settings at all, so maybe I can try a few different things. Planning to upgrade the motor eventually anyway.
Casper
04-20-2010, 04:11 PM
On slow starts you will typically find some stuttering. This is normal for sensorless. I have noticed sometimes you will get the car to "lock" up on some landings. This again is a sensorless phenomenon and what I would consider normal for this type of system. Sensorless is a little different beast then your typical 10th scale sensored system that is very smooth off the bottom.
I have an 8ight buggy and was wondering what is the best kv motor for using 4s 5000mah 35c batteries,taking any gearing options available and most track situations outdoors,no indoor clay etc. just lookin for something fast and manageable not a 2650kv for example maybe the 2050 or 1900??? even the new mamba 1800 ?
TrU Integra
04-24-2010, 10:34 PM
I have an 8ight buggy and was wondering what is the best kv motor for using 4s 5000mah 35c batteries,taking any gearing options available and most track situations outdoors,no indoor clay etc. just lookin for something fast and manageable not a 2650kv for example maybe the 2050 or 1900??? even the new mamba 1800 ?
1900 is imo the most friendly 4S set-up. :)
Casper
04-24-2010, 10:41 PM
The losi 1700 is a monster on 4s. A great setup. 15-16/45
Frank Root
04-24-2010, 10:58 PM
I have an 8ight buggy and was wondering what is the best kv motor for using 4s 5000mah 35c batteries,taking any gearing options available and most track situations outdoors,no indoor clay etc. just lookin for something fast and manageable not a 2650kv for example maybe the 2050 or 1900??? even the new mamba 1800 ?
I run the Xcelorin 1700KV motor geared 16/45, and it has been great!
James G.
04-25-2010, 10:12 AM
Need some help and advice, i have a LOSI 8ight E 2.0 and I'am currently running a Castle 2650 kv motor but can't seem to find the right pinion to run without it getting hot 180-195 degrees after a 20 min main. I've tryed an 11,12 and 15 tooth pinion w/the 45T Spur. Any Ideas or suggestions would great, The ESC is a mamba and i use Hyperion 4S 5000 MAH batteries.
Thanks in advance,
James
Casper
04-25-2010, 11:38 AM
4s on a 2650 is a LOT of motor. I would turn down some settings in the ESC. Reduce timing if possible and gear it LOW.
James G.
04-25-2010, 12:09 PM
Casper how low should i gear down with out losing alot of top end power?
Casper
04-25-2010, 01:31 PM
You should have great top end with the motor battery combo.
Taking timing out of the speedo will help keep motor temps down and allow you to have a decent gear on it to keep top end.
Frank Root
04-25-2010, 07:55 PM
Casper how low should i gear down with out losing alot of top end power?
The 2650, and 4s is more power than you can put down...
I'd be willing to bet that if you turn your throttle EPA down to 75-80%, your temps will go down and so will your lap times...;)
Sickwitit
04-27-2010, 10:06 PM
I have heard they are not going to continue offering the car as a roller with electronics anymore. Currently you will have to convert a nitro car with the electric conversion. I am hoping they will offer the car without electronics in the near future as a roller but not sure what the plans are. The 8ight-E is a highly successful electric 8th scale is still fully supported for electric parts but will be offered only as a conversion at this time.
Casper, I am very, very close to buying a nitro roller and converting it. Have you heard any new dates of when the Electric Roller chassis version will be released? Anybody?
Frank Root
04-27-2010, 11:05 PM
Casper, I am very, very close to buying a nitro roller and converting it. Have you heard any new dates of when the Electric Roller chassis version will be released? Anybody?
I would pull the trigger on converting a nitro kit, the electric version might be a while. We have all the parts necessary at Pacific Coast Hobbies, 310-530-7127.
Casper
04-28-2010, 09:37 AM
Casper, I am very, very close to buying a nitro roller and converting it. Have you heard any new dates of when the Electric Roller chassis version will be released? Anybody?
What Frank said. Convert the nitro kit for now.
Mr. Awsome
04-28-2010, 06:21 PM
Losi doesn't repair XCelorin motors.... what the heck???
Goose241
05-19-2010, 07:21 AM
Just wondering if anybody had a complete setup for one of these cars? Looking for something like Casper has for the XXX-T CR. Maybe some of the local Omaha racers would share what they are running? Just picked up a new car this week and I have no idea what to do with the setup on this thing.
Frank Root
05-19-2010, 09:32 AM
Just wondering if anybody had a complete setup for one of these cars? Looking for something like Casper has for the XXX-T CR. Maybe some of the local Omaha racers would share what they are running? Just picked up a new car this week and I have no idea what to do with the setup on this thing.
This is pretty much what I am running. The only differences are:
10* Castor block inclined and inclide spindles
Trimmed my wing down 5mm
Running 3-3 rear toe block
Layed shocks all the way down
http://losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/LOSA0806_DrakeStd.pdf
Casper
05-19-2010, 10:39 AM
I run the drake setup posted by Frank with the only change in I have 37.5wt oil and 55 pistons in the front shocks for more pack.
warpig
05-19-2010, 08:00 PM
Just wondering if anybody had a complete setup for one of these cars? Looking for something like Casper has for the XXX-T CR. Maybe some of the local Omaha racers would share what they are running? Just picked up a new car this week and I have no idea what to do with the setup on this thing.
This is Ben Burtle. I race in Omaha and I'm the only driver dipping into the 27 second laps in all the classes. So, I feel my setup works pretty well and is very consistent. I'll be at the track in Omaha this weekend if you need some help!
Also, Alex Sturgeon's car works really well too (He won the last race). We've both had some time with these E buggies and can both assist you at the track.
Ben Burtle
TrU Integra
05-19-2010, 09:53 PM
This is Ben Burtle. I race in Omaha and I'm the only driver dipping into the 27 second laps in all the classes. So, I feel my setup works pretty well and is very consistent. I'll be at the track in Omaha this weekend if you need some help!
Also, Alex Sturgeon's car works really well too (He won the last race). We've both had some time with these E buggies and can both assist you at the track.
Ben Burtle
Ben Might you be attending the JC race In Omaha next weekend ?
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