Losi clutch questions/setup questions

[ABURTON]

ask all of your set up questions about your losi 4 shoe clutch systems here....

[TrU Integra]

ask all of your set up questions about your losi 4 shoe clutch systems here....



Nice 1 alan....PS who the Tooot stole my user name....had to resort to an older clan name to get in. :mad:

[ABURTON]

lol, good to have ya..

I plan to copy and post some of the questions from t he other forum here..

I'm sure we can get Casey and Adam to chime in and we can help him get things sorted out..

[Big Puddin]

Well this is a flywheel question. Whats the diffrence between the

losa9101 flywheel and the losa9105 flywheel.

Thanks

[Neobart]

9101 looks to be the old style flywheel which has a thin contact area with the starter box wheel.

[Todd Hodge]

Well this is a flywheel question. Whats the diffrence between the

losa9101 flywheel and the losa9105 flywheel.

Thanks

LOSA9101 is the older one and comes with the older clutch pins. LOSA9105 is the wider flywheel with the new rounded edge clutch pins that allower easier installation.

[Big Puddin]

Thanks Todd

[K_B]

What was the magic number for knowing when the clutch shoes are shot? I've read it in a magazine and I've seen it posted on other forums, but I can't find it now...

Wasn't it something like 24.3 mm or something???

[TrU Integra]

What was the magic number for knowing when the clutch shoes are shot? I've read it in a magazine and I've seen it posted on other forums, but I can't find it now...

Wasn't it something like 24.3 mm or something???



23.4mm is what adam run's his to last time i checked/asked. :)

[Neobart]

Is that an end to end measurement of the shoes? I've never heard of that before.

[TrU Integra]

Is that an end to end measurement of the shoes? I've never heard of that before.



basically anything past that measurement the shoes are overworking themselve's having to travel a further distance to contact the bell causing more slip/heat/wear and once they get to a certain point the clutch will start to make the motor run hot and it will loose all its bottom end due to the clutch taking a dump....drake did the initial testing and found 23.3mm was a little too far and now he goes to 23.4mm......it was in a Issue of XRC like a couple year's ago as 23.3 then after asking again online Adam updated to 23.4 :)

blah here's a pic to show where to measure.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/davidmoxley123/Losi%208IGHT/DSC_0060.jpg

[K_B]

Well, I was close! dyslexia for the loss! :)

[Neobart]

Thanks Integra. I never heard of that before.

[losini]

what is the differences in running a steel flywheel and an alu one

kind regards

[TrU Integra]

what is the differences in running a steel flywheel and an alu one

kind regards



the steel is significantly heavier in comparison and will tame the bottom end a bit on powerful .21's.

another Big bonus is the fact the spring's dont "dig" a home in the flywheel itself eventually changing the amount of pressure the spring's are able to apply to the shoes.

[bones]

I have just bought a new rtr buggy and the book shows a 4 shoe but when i broke mine down mine only had two shoes in it anybody else finding this with theirs

[TrU Integra]

I have just bought a new rtr buggy and the book shows a 4 shoe but when i broke mine down mine only had two shoes in it anybody else finding this with theirs



the RTR's only come with 2 shoes....as ridiculous as it may sound that's the way they do it.....add 2 more shoes/springs and you'll be golden. :D

[bones]

That is strange that they would do that to a great buggy like this. Thanks for the info. But which shoes should I put on it the aluminum ones or composite shoes?

[TrU Integra]

That is strange that they would do that to a great buggy like this. Thanks for the info. But which shoes should I put on it the aluminum ones or composite shoes?



2 of each...and DO not stall the composite's higher then green...they will wear really fast. :)

[bones]

Thanks for the info will pick up two shoes next weekend since nearest hobby shop about two and a half hours a way.

[smedly]

I run all aluminum and gold springs, the gold springs help the rpm come up before the shoes grab, so not to bog the motor down. Works great for me, very driveable.


That is strange that they would do that to a great buggy like this. Thanks for the info. But which shoes should I put on it the aluminum ones or composite shoes?

[TrU Integra]

I run all aluminum and gold springs, the gold springs help the rpm come up before the shoes grab, so not to bog the motor down. Works great for me, very driveable.



buggy 2 comp 2 alum....truggy 4 alum..:p

[VOF]

Ideally, how often should the clutch springs be replaced?

[TrU Integra]

Ideally, how often should the clutch springs be replaced?



when the shoes are worn out is when i do mine. :)

I Might stretch a set of spring's over 2 set's of shoes but most of the time i toss them in a bag marked used and go new...they do sag out over time from the heat.

[Mark K]

Do the Losi long wear aluminum clutch shoes offer the same bite as the standard blue ones, just with a longer life time?

[TrU Integra]

Do the Losi long wear aluminum clutch shoes offer the same bite as the standard blue ones, just with a longer life time?



they are a harder alum there for will slip a little more then the stockers which i believe are a softer alum...they might not be...but from wear characteristics i would say they are softer and there for would have more bite initially over the long wear's....hard shoes do last A Lot longer over soft shoes...pending on set-up of coarse.

[Mark K]

How long does the Losi clutch to "bed" in? I went out today to try the clutch for the first time with 4 aluminum
Shoes 2 gold springs and 2 silver springs and the bottom end was very dissappointing to say the least. It wouldn't
Even spin the tires on full throttle starts. I only had time to run one tank though. Do I need to give it more time?

[Rally Stylz]

did you follow the clutch run in procedure?

[Mark K]

I sure did. did you follow the clutch run in procedure?

[bones]

I just added two composite shes with green springs to my buggy what would be the proper way to break them in. I have heard several different ways just wondering what the best way to do it is.

[bartman71]

personally i don't like the losi clutch.
shoes don't last long. has good performance but for me with limited time to maintain the car between race meets i went the fioroni sliding clutch. had it on for close to a year now and haven't had to replace a thing. even clutch bell bearings are near new and been on the car for 1 year.

[user]

Hi guys,

I ordered myself the 8ight 2.0 RTR and want to add two composite shoes to the clutch from the beginning. Does the basic kit include extra two shoe pins and some springs as well or should I order them with shoes?
So what must I purchase additionaly to get a 4 shoe (2 comp w/green springs & 2 alu w/gold springs) setup?

Thanks!

[bones]

I just puchased new shoes and made mine a four shoe clutch. I had to purchasee the composite shoes, the color springs i desired and then the pin kit all seperatly could not find them all together

[user]

I just puchased new shoes and made mine a four shoe clutch. I had to purchasee the composite shoes, the color springs i desired and then the pin kit all seperatly could not find them all together

So I understand, there's nothing included in the RTR kit, like even extra pins for two other shoes? What about those stock springs, are those golden with aluminum shoes?
Thanks!

[Audiobahnaholic]

Stock is black springs. For the normal setup most run you will need to buy the pin kit, gold springs, green springs, and composite shoes.

[CrEePeR]

I have a truggy and I am wanting to try the compset shoes and alum. shoes. Or should I just stick with the 2 dirent types of alum. shoes. I run green and gold springs. I know the composet shoes with alum. with green and gold really dose good on my wifes buggy. We run on a clay track. I have the losi 454 in my truggy but I am up grading to B6 soon. Please reply asap Im placing an order today.

[TrU Integra]

I have a truggy and I am wanting to try the compset shoes and alum. shoes. Or should I just stick with the 2 dirent types of alum. shoes. I run green and gold springs. I know the composet shoes with alum. with green and gold really dose good on my wifes buggy. We run on a clay track. I have the losi 454 in my truggy but I am up grading to B6 soon. Please reply asap Im placing an order today.


I would personally stick with the All alum in truggy.:)

[CrEePeR]

I would personally stick with the All alum in truggy.:)

Am I ok to stay green & gold or should I run all gold?

[TrU Integra]

Am I ok to stay green & gold or should I run all gold?



try gold/green at first and if you don't have enough stall you can up up to all gold.

[Lapper]

Does anyone else have an issue with the long wear shoes leaving aluminum slag/residue on the inside of the bell. Have since switched to the blue/composite setup with a new bell but thats what I noticed with the old setup. The original setup had two long wear and two composite on mine... guess I got lucky.

[TrU Integra]

Does anyone else have an issue with the long wear shoes leaving aluminum slag/residue on the inside of the bell. Have since switched to the blue/composite setup with a new bell but thats what I noticed with the old setup. The original setup had two long wear and two composite on mine... guess I got lucky.


Alum slag's out when it gets hot and or slips like crazy, you really shouldn't have ANY slag with a mix combo, So im kinda confused as to how you managed that.

[CrEePeR]

I noticed this also tonight when I was messing with my clutch. I thought about using my dremal tool with a sanding bit to get it off.

BTW alum./gold & composet/green isnt to bad in a truggy. lol

[TrU Integra]

I noticed this also tonight when I was messing with my clutch. I thought about using my dremal tool with a sanding bit to get it off.

BTW alum./gold & composet/green isnt to bad in a truggy. lol



if the bell's slagged big time its not worth the time and effort to try and repair it, for the $ its worth going Brand new.

Also if your clutch is slagging out then you need to look at your stall and shoe compound as they are out of wack.

[Lapper]

I'm mistaken... I had two long wear and two blue originally. :rolleyes:

[TrU Integra]

I'm mistaken... I had two long wear and two blue originally. :rolleyes:



And that's where the slag was partially from, what spring's did you have on ?