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Casey Peck
08-06-2009, 09:58 AM
Guess I will start the Strike Thread....Post any questions about the Losi Strike here.

Casey Peck
08-08-2009, 12:15 AM
Well Hopefully the weather holds for racing tomorrow. If so I will be putting the Strike thru its paces. This is such a fun class I hope to see it continue to grow.

Todd Hodge
08-09-2009, 11:23 PM
Check out the new ball differential for the Losi Strike

LOSB3594 (http://losi.com/Products/Features.aspx?ProdId=LOSB3594)

Todd Hodge
08-09-2009, 11:25 PM
If you want more rear grip for your Losi Strike or HighROLLER check out our new CV-Driveshafts which are made out of high grade 3.5mm steel.

LOSB3589 (http://losi.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=losb3589)

Keith Whisler
08-10-2009, 10:50 AM
I just wanted to come on here to introduce myself to the forum. My name is Keith Whisler and I am the Product Manager for The Strike project. If you have any questions concerning this vehicle, please feel free to ask. Between myself and the guys here, we can answer any questions you may have.

Casey Peck
08-11-2009, 06:56 PM
Check out the new ball differential for the Losi Strike

LOSB3594 (http://losi.com/Products/Features.aspx?ProdId=LOSB3594)


http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/Casey_Peck/LOSB3594-250.jpg

Casey Peck
08-11-2009, 06:57 PM
If you want more rear grip for your Losi Strike or HighROLLER check out our new CV-Driveshafts which are made out of high grade 3.5mm steel.

LOSB3589 (http://losi.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=losb3589)

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/Casey_Peck/LOSB3589-100.jpg

Signguy Gary
08-12-2009, 08:04 PM
OK - So myself, my son, and several other racers are planning on running the Strike this winter indoors, our class rules are ROAR CORR Rules Plus any Motor, so I plan on putting 13.5's in ours, but my question is this what will I need to do to make it as competitive as possible, and bullet proof it. Also what parts should I get for stock.

Thanks

Casper
08-13-2009, 11:28 AM
I would get the ball diff and the CVD's list above for sure. There are a lot of alum hop ups due to cross platform design of this truck if you find a weakness. Not sure which ones are going to be needed. I was able to drive the truck for a day and it took some good hits. The large bumpers help a lot with the hard hits. The all alum shocks keep those going strong unlike some of the competition's shocks.

I hope get get my strike soon and get some good testing in and get it dialed in. I plan on running mine box stock with maybe a tire change to see if I can get it in the spec slash classes we have around here and start banging some fenders!

Keith Whisler
08-21-2009, 10:41 AM
Thanks for handling the question Casper.....:) The Strike has been very durable in our testing of the production vehicles. We have had them on the track both in box stock form and with brushless sytems and we are having a blast running them. After all, isn;t that what it's all about......:D

Jeff Harper
08-27-2009, 07:26 AM
Can't wait for the Strike to hit the Hobby Shops! Our local racing facility (Adams Creek in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma) has added an offroad track this year and it is catching alot of attention. The CORR truck craze can be seen here with the biggest class by far being the Slash class. I have already put the bug in their ear about putting the Losi Strike and the Slash head to head (race them together).

I am an oval racer but I assure you, when these come out, I will get one and see if I can also turn right! :D

Keith Whisler
08-27-2009, 10:56 AM
Jeff--Your gonna have to worry about jumps as well as turning right.....:D Like I said before, we are having a lot of fun running these trucks. Some of the guys have been trying some different stuff with set-up already with success. We hope to have some good set-ups for differing conditions available on the website when the car hits the shelfs.

toybreaker
08-27-2009, 11:01 AM
Todd,
You state to get the CV-Driveshafts for more rear bite. What is it about the driveshaft that allows the truck to hook up better in the rear end? Is it just accelleration hook up or braking as well?

Casper,
Curious why a tire change?

thanks guys!

Casper
08-27-2009, 11:17 AM
I think goose bumps will be better tires just about anywhere. I think that is true for most of the SC tires out there. The kit tires are ok but lots of steering and not much rear traction yet. I am working on that! ;) I have some slash tires to compare to the losi tires to see how they work and will be getting some goosebumps as well to test them all out! ;)

CVD's bind the rear end under accleration which should help with on power rear tractions. They have always done that. It is more of an on power effect then under breaking. Bones will be better in rough stuff.

2fast4u
08-27-2009, 11:59 AM
tryin the ProLine Bowtie SC on my Slash, they hook up nice here in Florida on the clay:) cannot wait to try them out on a Strike! anyone want to send me a demo? the SC10 needs to get stomped by a Losi!:D:eek::D

toybreaker
08-27-2009, 01:00 PM
I think goose bumps will be better tires just about anywhere. I think that is true for most of the SC tires out there. The kit tires are ok but lots of steering and not much rear traction yet. I am working on that! ;) I have some slash tires to compare to the losi tires to see how they work and will be getting some goosebumps as well to test them all out! ;)

CVD's bind the rear end under accleration which should help with on power rear tractions. They have always done that. It is more of an on power effect then under breaking. Bones will be better in rough stuff.

cool, thanks for the info Casper. I had heard that about the CVDs but forgot, makes perfect sense now :)

Tires, oh that is always the sticky (or not sticky) point when trying to race spec stock. my opinion is it should be what it came with but with 4 manufactures one is bound to stick out as the better tire for most situations. Casper have you ever seen a rule that was "what your vehicle came with OR a single brand/model/compound" like goosebumps, that would work i think.

Casper
08-27-2009, 01:17 PM
Most rules tend to be SC 3.0/2.2 tires only. The only none realistic tire I know is the goosebumps. The SC10, losi, traxxas and proline tires all at least look like a tire you might see on a real truck. (tread wise).

We will try them out and see how they work! :D

With AKA making 8th scale adapters the unlimited trucks will probably go that way an now you are talking money.

I think the SC classes should stay at least somewhat stock. That is kind of the point of having an inexpensive class with cost controls. Tires can be expensive but a lot of these SC tires last forever so that is pretty cool.

tinkerbell
08-27-2009, 02:08 PM
Does anyone know when the Strike will hit the hobby stores for the public??? I'm waiting on it and can't wait.

Casper
08-27-2009, 03:21 PM
Looking at 3rd week in sept right now from what I have heard.

RcHippie
08-27-2009, 03:26 PM
:(I am very disapointed about the strike! Why didnt they use the xxx platform.Can any one tell me why they didnt ?:mad::mad:

Casper
08-27-2009, 03:51 PM
The goal was to make something that had the same feel as a slash and would compete in that "spec" class. Those truck have lots of body roll and slide through corners like a real corr truck. Most tracks will not let a SC10 run with a spec slash class from the first time they saw it. The reaction I have had from the track owners I have talked to don't see a problem letting the strike run with the slashes. Losi was working on something that had a more realistic feel to it rather then take there race proven truck and slap some bumpers on it and a big body. These trucks are raced but they also look cool and are a ton of fun to bash around with and the higher ground clearance allow it to go over stuff while fooling around chasing the dog. I see both arguments but for getting people into the hobby I think the path they took was the right one. The cost controlled slash spec class has brought a lot of hobbiest to the track to have some fun racing. If the class really becomes something legit for racing maybe a XXX-T based truck might be made but I don't beleive anything like that is in the works.

jim
08-27-2009, 10:57 PM
I can't wait to get my hands on one.

2fast4u
08-28-2009, 05:38 AM
i was happy to see a non stadium truck based SC truck come out, AE and HPI seem kind of lazy in the design department! the Losi looks like some thought went into it. it looks like a good spec class truck! we have a racer here that made his SC10, put a Slash body on his T4! runs well in the mod class!

so i anyone at Losi would like to send me a demo Strike..........:D

moby
08-28-2009, 10:02 AM
I can't wait until we get it in Europe
I've allready ordered the balldiff and cvd axes to for my High Roller (actually for both off them)
please ship it all to Europe

Casey Peck
08-28-2009, 03:29 PM
Got some paint on mine now:)

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/Casey_Peck/strikepaint.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/Casey_Peck/strikepaint1.jpg

Keith Whisler
08-28-2009, 04:00 PM
I'm jealous.....:eek:

Casper
08-28-2009, 04:02 PM
I hope to have mine next week!

Casey. You coming to the Reedy truck race?

Alan
08-28-2009, 04:07 PM
That looks sweet Casey, did you paint that yourself?

idbdoug
08-28-2009, 05:36 PM
I hope those are stock pin tires! Pin tires usually work well on our track.
HOw bout some pictures on the truck without the body on it if you are allowed.
Thanks
idbdoug

one18thscaleracer
08-28-2009, 06:07 PM
i was so glad to see the strike not be a stretched xxxt platform im sure many tracks will allow this truck in the slash spec class with only a tire change cant wait to get one also what kind of wheel mount is used will slash rims fit or sc10 if one of these fit is there a offset diff? thanks

Casper
08-28-2009, 08:57 PM
Those are not the stock tires on Casey's truck.

These are the stock tires

http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/LOS/250/LOSB7214-250.jpg

I hear the slash tires fit on the rear but not on the front. I think only strike wheels fit on the front.

Matt Sunderlage
08-28-2009, 10:41 PM
As Casper and some others know I can't wait to get my STRIKE!!!!!!!

Casey, That's a sick paint job!!!!!!!!:eek:

Will clear bodies hit distibutors when the trucks do??

yfzmotox21
08-29-2009, 12:18 AM
is this truck available yet?

Casper
08-29-2009, 01:13 AM
They are saying Sept 25th.

RcHippie
08-29-2009, 12:31 PM
I hear you but at my local track we have 4 heats of mod sc runnig 13.5 .99%of them are sc10s ! It would be nice to have a losi!

Matt Sunderlage
08-29-2009, 02:51 PM
+1

I totally agree!!!:)

rog929
08-29-2009, 04:42 PM
I'm not waiting anymore, I can't take it. Here is my mod truck, should be done in the next few days.

Casey Peck
08-30-2009, 09:22 PM
Casper...no I will not be able to attend the truck race.

Keith...nah nee nah nee boo boo! :)

Alan....No my painter Greg from Gregs graf-x does all of my bodies. (Thanks Greg!) ;)

vinny
08-30-2009, 10:23 PM
why did you use a high roller chassis for the truck? and i found a weak point. th rear tires are held on the chassis by a couple of screws and braces. is that to keep it a cheap truck?

Casper
08-31-2009, 11:25 AM
I guess I don't understand what you mean by found a weak point? Aren't all the cars rear ends held together with some braces and screws?

I am not sure I have heard of any major part failures with the test trucks yet? They have been holding together remarkably well!

Canuck
08-31-2009, 02:30 PM
My question. Can someone please go and tell Keith and the team to get this truck out before the 25th so I can make a club race this year? :)

Tony Hottmann
08-31-2009, 03:28 PM
has anyone tried to convert a high roller yet?
I mean **** all you people crying about when the trucks get relased i say screw that make your own. You know what losi did to make it just do it yourself. personally i think the sc10 bodies look better anyways. Just a thought. if anyone does let me know how it works out cause i have been thinking about doing it myself only thing i would need to know is the gear diffrences maybe some part #s for spur gear and pinion(hint hint nudge nudge)

Matt Sunderlage
08-31-2009, 07:55 PM
I am not sure I have heard of any major part failures with the test trucks yet? They have been holding together remarkably well!

Good to know!!!:)

TFrahm
08-31-2009, 08:34 PM
My question. Can someone please go and tell Keith and the team to get this truck out before the 25th so I can make a club race this year? :)

MAN! I hated to see this...

Horizon now shows the Strike as due in EARLY OCTOBER...!!!!?????

:confused::mad::confused:

Canuck
08-31-2009, 09:43 PM
MAN! I hated to see this...

Horizon now shows the Strike as due in EARLY OCTOBER...!!!!?????

:confused::mad::confused:

Hmmm, this is right from the Horizon site.

Item coming soon.

LOSB0105BD by Losi
Due Early October, 2009

I've been hearing the week of Sept.21st for the last while, with the 25th being the Friday of that week. "Early October" could mean as early as the 1st to 3rd of October which is one week later, or it could mean a week or two beyond that.

I guess this is just a new thing for me, I'm not used to having to wait for new products to come out. When I got into RC my MT had been on the market for a few months and was in stock.

I would imagine a large portion of the target market is in much warmer climates than I am in, so a fall release wouldn't hurt sales too much. Either way, I can't help but think this isn't going to do any favors for Strike sales. If I wasn't such a Losi fanboy I'd probably just get an SC10 and call it a day. :(

Casper
08-31-2009, 10:12 PM
I hate to say it but this is pretty typical of the market in general. Some things are withing control of the manufactures others may not be. I don't know specifics of what is holding things up please hold tight guys. It will be worth the wait!

TFrahm
09-01-2009, 10:11 AM
I hate to say it but this is pretty typical of the market in general. Some things are withing control of the manufactures others may not be. I don't know specifics of what is holding things up please hold tight guys. It will be worth the wait!

It's not so bad for me -- I race at an INDOOR offroad track (470' lap length -- with a 170' dirt oval included), so I can race all winter, but I really feal for those who only race outdoors...

Oh well, I'll just keep racing my XXX-TCR, XXX-CR and Slider...:cool:

Birdy
09-01-2009, 11:17 AM
So what Brushless system will work the best in the new Strike SCT.

10.5 or 13.5???????????

Going to give one of these ago for the winter months over here in the UK.

Casper
09-01-2009, 11:44 AM
I think it will depend on the size of your track but I would think 13.5 would be plenty. I am about to put a 17.5 in my truck to get ready for the reedy truck race so I will let you know how it goes this weekend!

Keith Whisler
09-01-2009, 12:01 PM
One of the guys here at the office is running a 10.5 motor and having good success with it. I don't think I would go any lower than that even though the transmission is very capable of handling the power. Casper is probably correct with his 13.5 suggestion.

Hold tight guys, as some have said already, some things are out of our control.....:o

Dman
09-01-2009, 01:44 PM
Hmmm, this is right from the Horizon site.

I've been hearing the week of Sept.21st for the last while, with the 25th being the Friday of that week. "Early October" could mean as early as the 1st to 3rd of October which is one week later, or it could mean a week or two beyond that.

I guess this is just a new thing for me, I'm not used to having to wait for new products to come out. When I got into RC my MT had been on the market for a few months and was in stock.



The Horizon site will only indicate a month's ETA as Early, Mid, or Late and contains some "cushion" to allow for delays in transportation to our distribution centers and then shipping to your local hobby store. We still expect the Strike to be in stores and on the track before the end of September. The ETA on the site will not change until it is in open stock.

Alan
09-01-2009, 03:07 PM
Amain still has their date as 15th October

Briguy
09-01-2009, 10:25 PM
I can`t wait to get one !

bigron
09-02-2009, 02:08 PM
Hey Casper, (assuming you've ran a slash or SC10 before) How much of a difference does the mid-mounted motor give you? Would you say there is a significant advantage in that design for this style of truck?

Thank
Ron

Casper
09-02-2009, 02:39 PM
To be honest I have never run an SC10 and I have very limited experience with the slash. There are others that are more qualified to answer how this truck feels compared to those two then myself. Still working on setups for the strike. I am getting it to work much better though. It is little stuff but the truck is reacting well to setup changes. I have run very competative times with expert slash classes with this truck so far. Most of the SC10's I have run against were "open" class trucks. The strike will be a great truck to run in the spec slash classes and hopefully will help keep those classes growing. Spec classes with only one choice tend to be fad classes with no real competition in brands to keep people interested. (at least that has been my observation over the years). I am prepping my truck to run "roar" rules for the reedy truck race at the end of the month so we will see how it goes in a basicall open SC class with motor restrictions. I can't wait to see how it goes!

TFrahm
09-02-2009, 02:56 PM
I am prepping my truck to run "roar" rules for the reedy truck race at the end of the month so we will see how it goes in a basicall open SC class with motor restrictions. I can't wait to see how it goes!

How are you getting around the overall length problem with ROAR rules...??? :confused:

Casper
09-02-2009, 05:13 PM
Jimmy is going to waive that rule for us for the Reedy truck race. The ROAR rules are just provisonal. They really don't cover much other the some general body specs and tire rules and a motor limit.

Alan
09-02-2009, 09:16 PM
Anyone got a photo of one next to a XXX-T?

Randy Jones
09-02-2009, 09:55 PM
Do the ESC's have a cut-off built in for LiPo's?

Alan
09-02-2009, 11:09 PM
Do the ESC's have a cut-off built in for LiPo's?

Yes, this is the ESC here - http://www.losi.com/Products/Features.aspx?ProdId=LOSB9522

Metalracer2
09-02-2009, 11:26 PM
Jimmy is going to waive that rule for us for the Reedy truck race. The ROAR rules are just provisonal. They really don't cover much other the some general body specs and tire rules and a motor limit.

thats good to hear

Matt Sunderlage
09-03-2009, 01:26 AM
...Man I really wish the STRIKE was out.....offroad at my local track starts next week.:(

Jonathan Paulk
09-03-2009, 06:58 AM
If you want more rear grip for your Losi Strike or HighROLLER check out our new CV-Driveshafts which are made out of high grade 3.5mm steel.

LOSB3589 (http://losi.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=losb3589)


How can we have more grip for a truck that doesn't exist?

Casper
09-03-2009, 09:20 AM
It exists just not in public yet. Soon!

Anyone in the socal area. Sounds like Losi will have a giant booth at the Parris fairgrounds at the MX track this weekend. They will have a Strike arrive and drive booth setup for those that want to give the new truck a whirl. See it exists!

Metalracer2
09-03-2009, 11:01 AM
i've seen it.

dirtracer
09-03-2009, 08:47 PM
Keith, I am looking into getting a strike but i am not sure yet any info you can give would be great! I have also heard that the strike is to big for roar races can you tell me if this is so and if so are they working on rule changes to fit the strike ?


Thanks

Timmerica
09-03-2009, 09:05 PM
I'm disappointed with this truck and Losi in general. I remember back when (Team) Losi was all about producing top-notch racing vehicles. Instead they chose to make the Strike more like the quasi-basher Slash than like the more race worthy SC10. I can't believe the Strike doesn't even meet ROAR specs. I'm a racer and am leaning toward getting the SC10 or HPI BLitz.

rog929
09-03-2009, 09:21 PM
I'll probably get one but I'm not waiting... here is the update. The body fit great (proline) but the fron is just a bit wide to fit under the body. The good news is the wheels are huge inside and there is plenty of room to turn down the axles. This is going to work.. I'm already working on a cleaner second chassis with carbon fiber. This will fit all roar rules, though they would not like it. It will be killer at local stuff. 4 or 5 more days it will be done.

Casper
09-03-2009, 09:30 PM
Looks great. Good job. One of the Team Losi drivers built one like that and it worked great. Same thing as a SC10. It is just a T4 with bumpers.

Losi was in production of the truck before the roar rules came out and they are just provisional rules so there is room for them to change ifyour track is a stickler for ROAR rules which MOST are not. The Strike will be a fun truck to race with Slashes. The slashes made this class what it is. A fun basher class that is cheap to get into and cheap to keep racing. Take it for what it is guys.

2fast4u
09-04-2009, 09:30 AM
I'm disappointed with this truck and Losi in general. I remember back when (Team) Losi was all about producing top-notch racing vehicles. Instead they chose to make the Strike more like the quasi-basher Slash than like the more race worthy SC10. I can't believe the Strike doesn't even meet ROAR specs. I'm a racer and am leaning toward getting the SC10 or HPI BLitz.

the idea is to make the truck fun and cheap, AE spend very little time on the SC10, wow a T4 with a truck body on it, one of our racers did that to his in under an hour! the class is not about racing stadium trucks, it is about racing realistic looking trucks that handle like crap! i put a 10.5 in my slash and ran it with the SC10's, mine did not break, and came in second behind a SC10 with a 7.5 with only a 8 second lead. give the strike a look if it comes out anytime soon!

i do agree with the top notch race cars though, why all the basher stuff lately? i mean really, how many micro and mini's does Losi sell? i have seen them at my LHS on the shelf for months!

rog929
09-06-2009, 05:02 PM
The last guy will probably not like this one but.... Gentlemen thr Losi Short Coors Truck. Yup the tires are dirty and this handles awesome. I have some odds and ends to do but tomorow I'm going to get it dialed. This is going to be a great truck.

bigron
09-06-2009, 05:37 PM
Looks good, but the front end is too wide. You can't do any paint swapping or side by side racing with your wheels hanging out there. :D That's the fun of it.

rog929
09-06-2009, 06:24 PM
same width as sc10. I had to mod the axles. Also the rules say the tires have to fit in the body looking down at it, they do. It fits the rules, though I'm sure they would never let it run at a national level. Local look out... It does not drive any different than my race XXXT.

rog929
09-06-2009, 06:27 PM
Yah, that one picture makes it look pretty wide. here is a better one

2fast4u
09-07-2009, 07:11 AM
looks nice! when do you start shipping?:D the slash wheels stick out a bit on the Pro-Line body too.

Canuck
09-08-2009, 12:39 AM
Any updates from the Losi team on ship dates?

Birdy
09-08-2009, 03:34 AM
Any of the Losi team had any major race's against the likes of a Slash or SC10? how does the Strike perform on the track?

I really need a SCT before the start of the winter season but as I am in the UK I am starting to think if I will get a Strike before the first meeting.

Is it worth the wait or should I get a SC10?

The chassis looks very narrow, what will this do on the track to the handling?

Casper
09-08-2009, 09:22 AM
We ran the strike against a field of SC10's in open short course truck in the first outing at a JBRL event. We finished 3rd, 4th, and 5th out of 10. I finsihed 4th with my box stock truck. 3rd ran a 10.5. We have learned a lot about the truck since then. We will be running one or two strikes again this weekend at another JBRL event before we run them later this month at the Reedy Truck race in the ROAR SCT class.

The narrow chassis keeps the weight in the middle of the truck to help with weight transfer for better cornering. With some of the setup changes we have been making the truck is working really good.

The truck was designed to compete with Slashes since most stock slash rules only allow slashes we have been racing against SC10's lostly and holding our own quite well.

2fast4u
09-08-2009, 06:12 PM
we run the SC trucks together at most of our club races, the stock slashes seem to do better than the SC10's and mod slashes. of course it also matters who drives the truck.

send me a Strike, I'll give you a review! :-)

Casper
09-08-2009, 08:50 PM
I got a picture of my strike body. Can't wait to actually get and mount it up!

Briguy
09-09-2009, 04:49 AM
Really nice !

Casper
09-09-2009, 09:12 AM
Chico at Kolor Koncepts does a really nice job!

rc-guy
09-09-2009, 04:45 PM
not trying to bash this idea but compared to the Team Associated SC10 and the new hpi version that just came out. why is it that losi just took another "HIGHroller" and put a body on it and there you go. where has losi gone wrong with this idea? i run a adim drake 1/10 and a owned two truggies version 1 and now 2 and also see some bad things carried over from one to another.. any how going back to this so called short Course.really there could have been some more time put into developing a better 1/10 for this class to be competitive with other. but this is just my two cent for what it is worth

Briguy
09-09-2009, 05:52 PM
It is competitive with the Slash which is what they made it for . Bad things carried over from the 1.0 to 2.0 truggy ? Like what ?

rc heaven
09-09-2009, 06:28 PM
you didn't look very closely at the strike if you thing the parts from a high roller fit it
maybe check it out a little closer

Casper
09-10-2009, 09:21 AM
It does use some highroller parts like the chassis but the rest of the truck has been tweaked. The front and rear ends are pretty different.

RcWorkShopp
09-10-2009, 01:10 PM
Well for me I love my Slash. That's because it's the only one I have. I don't like Associated so I wont get theres. I will buy the Strike and run that too and that might be my new favorite. And when the Ofna 4wd comes out I will buy that also. To me they will all have something that is better then the other like jumping or sliding threw the turns. I wont know till I have them all and see witch one I like and fits my driving. I like Losi cars and trucks I think they make great products. Every time I had emailed them they were quick with a reply and always answered my questions.

Matt Sunderlage
09-13-2009, 11:11 AM
So how did your racing go this weekend Kieth and Casper???

Getting closer to owning my STRIKE!!!!:D

rc heaven
09-13-2009, 11:30 AM
Well for me I love my Slash. That's because it's the only one I have. I don't like Associated so I wont get theres. I will buy the Strike and run that too and that might be my new favorite. And when the Ofna 4wd comes out I will buy that also. To me they will all have something that is better then the other like jumping or sliding threw the turns. I wont know till I have them all and see witch one I like and fits my driving. I like Losi cars and trucks I think they make great products. Every time I had emailed them they were quick with a reply and always answered my questions.

good choice with the slash it is a good performer compared to the stampede,
great choice getting a strike, i don't even have mine yet, but if it as much better than the high roller as the slash was to stampede...where in for an amazing truck boys!

oddly enough have many brands of rc's and associated is one that have looked at often but never bought and wouldn't take one if you gave it to me...maybe...lol

plod
09-13-2009, 11:51 AM
Wonder when they will hit UK

Just wondering whether to do Truggy winter series or go short course
One of the guys brought an SC8 to the track today and it looked a real blast
Can only imagine what a heat of these would look like in real life.

Briguy
09-13-2009, 12:28 PM
I ended up buying a Slash last night at the races . After talking with the race director the Strikes will not be allowed in the slash class . Will be ran in mod SC class . For me I like having a spec class where everyone runs the same thing and just comes down to driver and setup that wins , not someone with the deepest wallet .

jrxt
09-13-2009, 02:27 PM
Why can't the SC Class be run like all the other classes of racing.
No one whines that he runs Exelerin so his is faster then my novak or b4 is Beter then RB5:p or CR so i just don't get it.
Spec SC or Mod SC and stop your cryin:( if you want what you think is fast then buy it.:D
can someone help me understand this issue.:rolleyes:

2fast4u
09-13-2009, 03:33 PM
Spec SC class keeps the trucks even, money don't buy speed only skill gets you faster!
Mod SC for those who think speed is better and have money to spend. i really enjoy the spec class most because you have to drive well, i win more races in the corners than the straight away, even against the mod trucks.

the Strike should be run with the spec class, it has the same electronics as the Slash and the SC10 RTR electronics are not much better. :)

2fast4u
09-13-2009, 03:35 PM
it's alot like stock and mod buggy, stock buggy you have to run a specific motor, mod you can run what ever.

Briguy
09-13-2009, 04:10 PM
According to the guys that have the SC10s , they are a much better truck then the Slashes and doesn`t fall into a spec class . Many of them have both a Slash and SC10 .

jrxt , I`m not whining about anything ! And it seems your the only one with an " issue " . Just stating what I bought and why . I like having a spec class , it reminds me of stock racing from back when I first got into racing R/C . Once the Strikes are available I will probably get on and run mod class .

jrxt
09-13-2009, 06:20 PM
Hey b-guy i was not pointing at you and it's not an issue for me as i don't race either one.
So sorry if you thought i was picking on you it was general question from reading several diff. forums.

Briguy
09-13-2009, 06:31 PM
Oh , ok . Looked like you were saying that to me . No big deal .

jmackani
09-13-2009, 11:11 PM
If the SC10 is so much better, then why at the pro level do the SC10 and Slash appear head to head? I believe the current roar rules allows them to run together. Too many tracks are hung up on the word "slash class". Slash is a vehicle sold by Traxxas. The class should be called short course truck. It's all in the drivers. I think it will turn into a stock and mod class just like buggy and all the others have through the years.

Casper
09-13-2009, 11:28 PM
So how did your racing go this weekend Kieth and Casper???

Getting closer to owning my STRIKE!!!!:D

It went really well. We had 3 strikes with 2 full heats of open short course trucks at the JBRL this weekend. WE put all 3 of them in the show. I ran a 17.5 in the first round to get used to the speed in prep for the Reedy truck race coming up. Most everyone else was running more motor so I put a 13.5 in. I did not qualify all that well but main time the truck was hooked up. Kyle Hunter drove his strike to a 2nd place finish with a 10.5 and I was right behind him in 3rd after the 6 min race using my 13.5. A really great showing and we are getting some good setups developed for this truck. It is showing to be very competitive even against the SC10's. I can't wait for the reedy to see how the truck performs in its first real big race!

Keith Whisler
09-14-2009, 09:52 AM
As Casper said, we put all 3 of our Strikes in the A-main at the very competitive JBRL series. I was running the stock motor and electronics and qualified at the back of the pack. I think when all was said and done I finished 5th or 6th in what was one of the most competitive classes of the day........:cool:

Cha-Ching Racing
09-14-2009, 02:04 PM
If the SC10 is so much better, then why at the pro level do the SC10 and Slash appear head to head? I believe the current roar rules allows them to run together. Too many tracks are hung up on the word "slash class". Slash is a vehicle sold by Traxxas. The class should be called short course truck. It's all in the drivers. I think it will turn into a stock and mod class just like buggy and all the others have through the years.

I agree, My Slash will hang with the SC10's all day & I look forward to doing even better with the Strike.

I will be running SCT Stock & SCT Mod classes here. I will allow Strikes,Slashes,SC10's & Blitz's in both classes with certain rules.And when the 1/8 conversions get more popular I will add a SCT Open class for them.

The SCT's are by far the most popular vehicle at the track now & I want to make the new comers feel as welcome as I can.


Congrats to the Losi drivers at the JBRL race! Keep working on those set-ups for us future Strike racers!

Metalracer2
09-14-2009, 10:50 PM
good Run this weekend Keith, how did you finish in stock ans super stock truck?

Mach1
09-15-2009, 07:08 AM
Are the strike stc beeing shipped already? Amain says 15/9 so this should be today.

Thanks mach1

Briguy
09-15-2009, 07:12 AM
I doubt it , Horizon is saying they won`t have them until October .

Jonathan Paulk
09-15-2009, 10:35 AM
Just checked amain's site....

For the Bind n' Drive: This product will be in stock on Thursday, October 01, 2009.

For the one with the radio: This product will be in stock on Monday, October 05, 2009

rob martin
09-15-2009, 11:09 AM
looks like a good truck. i plan on getting one.

Matt Sunderlage
09-20-2009, 12:20 PM
It went really well. We had 3 strikes with 2 full heats of open short course trucks at the JBRL this weekend. WE put all 3 of them in the show. I ran a 17.5 in the first round to get used to the speed in prep for the Reedy truck race coming up. Most everyone else was running more motor so I put a 13.5 in. I did not qualify all that well but main time the truck was hooked up. Kyle Hunter drove his strike to a 2nd place finish with a 10.5 and I was right behind him in 3rd after the 6 min race using my 13.5. A really great showing and we are getting some good setups developed for this truck. It is showing to be very competitive even against the SC10's. I can't wait for the reedy to see how the truck performs in its first real big race!

Awesome!!! Good to hear it ran at the top!!!

Shouldnt be long before I have mine...finally.:D

If you could post what gearing you used that would be sweet.

Casper
09-20-2009, 12:58 PM
Gearing for the 13.5 or the 17.5?

I will have to double check and get back to you. I think I may have been a little undergeared so I should have a better gearing for the 17.5 after next weekend.

Matt Sunderlage
09-20-2009, 11:33 PM
Gearing for the 13.5 or the 17.5?

I will have to double check and get back to you. I think I may have been a little undergeared so I should have a better gearing for the 17.5 after next weekend.

Any good ratios for specific motors would be helpful.....I need to get that puppy on the track!!!!:)
I am going to try it box stock first though.....

Casper
09-21-2009, 03:31 PM
The stock gearing is a good starting point. I went down a tooth for my shorter track as the truck was pulling all the way down the straight. Figured I would give it a little more bottom to for the infield.

17.5 I am at 28/86 right now but not sure if that is tall enough. Last weekend I was at 26/86 with the 13.5. Truck ran great. Motor was cool. I am sure I could have gone up. The track has some short runups to jumps though so the lower gearing was ok. These would be good starting points. You get the 90,88,and 86 spurs with the kit.

Mach1
09-22-2009, 08:25 AM
Are there also some different pinions in the kit?
Are they 48p?

Thanks in advance

Casper
09-22-2009, 09:23 AM
No you just get one pinion. (20T). The gears are standard 48p

jmackani
09-22-2009, 05:54 PM
Are there any setup sheets put together by the sponsored drivers with some of their research has found yet?

Casper
09-22-2009, 07:07 PM
I gave my setup to Losi. They should be posting it soon. I will post it here after this weekend. Still some more stuff I want to try.

Clamber
09-22-2009, 09:02 PM
Cant wait for the strike. It should eat those SC10s!

Matt Sunderlage
09-22-2009, 09:25 PM
I think I'm VERY close to having my STRIKE!!!!!:):)

:D

Casey Peck
09-23-2009, 01:05 AM
I think you're right!!

TFrahm
09-23-2009, 12:29 PM
My LHS says mine should arrive Friday -- they show it is in transit to them...

FWIW: They ordered two RTR and 4 BND -- the RTR's are all that show as shipped as of 5 minutes ago... (about 1:30PM Central time)...

Wheels & clear bodies are also on the way...

YOWZA!:D:);)

jared52
09-24-2009, 10:58 AM
My LHS says mine should arrive Friday -- they show it is in transit to them...

FWIW: They ordered two RTR and 4 BND -- the RTR's are all that show as shipped as of 5 minutes ago... (about 1:30PM Central time)...

Wheels & clear bodies are also on the way...

YOWZA!:D:);)

Friday Sept 25 or Friday October 2?

jmackani
09-24-2009, 08:23 PM
My LHS also shows arrival of Sept 25 from UPS.

TFrahm
09-24-2009, 10:30 PM
Friday Sept 25 or Friday October 2?

Tomorrow - Sept. 25.... :D:):D

jared52
09-25-2009, 08:03 AM
Yep, got word this morning that our BND version will ship out today from Carolina's RC!

Idontknow
09-25-2009, 12:45 PM
RTR strike is in stock at Amain hobbies!!! looks like the wait is over.:D

bigron
09-25-2009, 08:43 PM
So far, so good. It reminds me of my old Slash. I'll be doing my own comparing this weekend at our first indoor club race. Thanks Losi for the spur options!

idbdoug
09-25-2009, 08:45 PM
Are the front rims and rear rims the same? I would like to be able to swap the rears to the front when they get a little worn!!!
Thanks for any further information
idbdoug

shadoweye
09-25-2009, 09:02 PM
will a slash body fit on the strike?

bigron
09-25-2009, 09:11 PM
Shadoweye:

No, the body dosen't fit due to the tower placement. It's the same size though.

bigron
09-25-2009, 09:13 PM
idbdoug:

Wheels look to be identical.

rcracer39
09-26-2009, 08:49 AM
Finally got my strike yesterday...long awaited. My question is, has anyone come up with a shock piston/oil/spring setup beyond the stock setup? We run on a fairly smooth to blue groove track built with 1/8th scale in mind. I'm gonna try drilling the front pistons to 59,stock appears to be around 61, and start with 35wt oil. A team driver setup sheet post would be nice as well. Thanks...

TFrahm
09-26-2009, 10:01 AM
Casper posted his setup over on RCTech.net... He also said he had given it to LOSI, but they hadn't had time to clean it up (it was hand-written) and post it...

rcracer39
09-26-2009, 11:02 AM
Thank you...will check it out

sweber76
09-26-2009, 12:57 PM
I've got a friend with a Losi Strike that is running on a top soil surface off road track. We are having a problem with the rear end being really loose after entering or coming out of the corners under power. The rear wants to come around no matter what hub position, camber link position, rear shock location, or battery position is used. The battery moved all the way back just seems to make the truck come around even faster. We also installed Proline BowTies M3 off another corr truck on the back trying to get it hooked up. The tires still didn’t help tighten up the rear at all. Out of the box set up isn't working at all at this point. So, how many changes have to be made to the shock pistons or oils to get this hooked up? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Casey Peck
09-26-2009, 05:23 PM
Losi makes some 1 and 2 deg rear hubs Losa9807 and Losa9808 from the xxxnt these will help get some rear traction on those loose surfaces. I have also gone to 45 in the front shocks and 30 in the rear.

Bkahn
09-26-2009, 09:59 PM
When selecting LiPo mode when the speed control quits flashing red it switches back to green, is this normal? is it in LiPo mode?
Thank You

Racinghavoc
09-26-2009, 10:37 PM
could anyone tell me which manufacture makes a rim that fist the strike properly? I was really hoping that I could a beadlock style rim?

jamorgan29
09-27-2009, 05:44 AM
could anyone tell me which manufacture makes a rim that fist the strike properly? I was really hoping that I could a beadlock style rim?


Probably none yet. They were just released Friday.

Matt Sunderlage
09-27-2009, 11:15 PM
could anyone tell me which manufacture makes a rim that fist the strike properly? I was really hoping that I could a beadlock style rim?

Losi rims are you only option now....just wait aftermarlet companies will be hard at work on Monday for sure.

I'll get my STRIKE on Tuesday, Ill post up any and all set-up tips I can figure out...;)

wilashlock
09-28-2009, 08:58 AM
Keith,

why didnt you design the strike to meet ROAR standards. the mid-engine design?? i also heard that the chassis is too long. this is too bad for our local SC drivers who were looking foward to the strike but now don't want to spend the money on something they cant race with the Slash or SC10. really sounds as if LOSI is steering away from the needs of the competitive racers. what gives???

jrxt
09-28-2009, 09:00 AM
This is for all the Losi Drivers that were testing and working on setups for the Strike did any of you try or use the BALL DIFF.

Casper
09-28-2009, 09:58 AM
Keith,

why didnt you design the strike to meet ROAR standards. the mid-engine design?? i also heard that the chassis is too long. this is too bad for our local SC drivers who were looking foward to the strike but now don't want to spend the money on something they cant race with the Slash or SC10. really sounds as if LOSI is steering away from the needs of the competitive racers. what gives???

ROAR put out their provisional rules based on what was currently on the market. The strike design was already relased for mold production and tooling. Keith is working with ROAR to get the length rules changed to allow the strike into the class. I would expect the rules to include it in the next go around. Again it was just bad timing for losi that the rules were set when they were. Losi was not trying to build something out of spec but at the time there were no rules.

Mid engine design gets the motor lower in the truck and lowers the CG. The motor futher forward also helps keep the weight more centered in the car.

This is for all the Losi Drivers that were testing and working on setups for the Strike did any of you try or use the BALL DIFF.

I have been running the ball diff and it works great! I would run one if you local rules allow it. Great hop up!

could anyone tell me which manufacture makes a rim that fist the strike properly? I was really hoping that I could a beadlock style rim?

Traxxas rear rims will fit on the truck but due to the different bearing sizes for the traxxas and the losi the fronts will not work. :(

I've got a friend with a Losi Strike that is running on a top soil surface off road track. We are having a problem with the rear end being really loose after entering or coming out of the corners under power. The rear wants to come around no matter what hub position, camber link position, rear shock location, or battery position is used. The battery moved all the way back just seems to make the truck come around even faster. We also installed Proline BowTies M3 off another corr truck on the back trying to get it hooked up. The tires still didn’t help tighten up the rear at all. Out of the box set up isn't working at all at this point. So, how many changes have to be made to the shock pistons or oils to get this hooked up? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Try out this setup. I have been getting great feed back from it already.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/6401480-post488.html

I would love to post it here but the file is too big for this boards limits for a .pdf file.

If you cannot view this link let me know and I will write it out on this board. I am trying to get losi to post this setup on there web page.

Casey Peck
09-28-2009, 11:16 AM
Here is another one that works on tracks with little traction.

front
45 wt oil standard camber link
shocks outside on arm
battery all the way back
2oz of weight under speedo mount brace
toe square
-1 camber
arms above level chassis level

rear
30 wt shocks outside
1-a camber link
2 deg hubs forward(losa9808)
.020 more anisquat
ball diff
zero deg camber
small sway bar

I also went ahead and put lunsford turnbuckles on which is not necessary but I had some. Use the steering drag link from the 8ight vehicles for the rod ends they are a perfect fit (losa6044)

Butch 55
09-28-2009, 12:24 PM
Picked mine up this last Friday. From Hobbies R4U in Bradley ILL.

Tried to bind it to a MTX Pro. But would not happen? And what's with the black rims on the BND trucks? That will be the first thing I change. Reminds me of some of the tuner cars around here.

Butch 55

Casper
09-28-2009, 01:04 PM
I have not heard of any binding issues with this truck yet.

I like the black chrome. They offer those and regular chrome wheels right now. I think the BND have the black chrome and the RTR are chrome.

Tony Hottmann
09-28-2009, 01:12 PM
anyone tried a proline carnage bodie yet?
if so let me know when I sell my jammin truggy I was gonna pick up strike and I love the carnage bodies :D

jared52
09-28-2009, 03:05 PM
Anyone got any footage of a Strike at a race this weekend?

Casper
09-28-2009, 03:18 PM
Someone posted something on youtube on this thread

http://forum.losi.com/showthread.php?t=664

Canuck
09-28-2009, 03:32 PM
Any Canadian shops have these in yet? My LHS is saying another week or more.......

bigron
09-28-2009, 04:30 PM
I raced mine yesterday at our clubs opening race. All I can say is it kept getting better as the day went on. I started with caspers setup from rctech. Then I changed the oil to 50wt front/ 45wt rear and rear shocks back inside on the arms. I also set the ride height just above arm level front/back. Well today there are alot of slashes for sale :D.

Curtis May
09-28-2009, 05:36 PM
Ron,it looked pretty good man,i can't to get mine out

Chris Wolfson
09-28-2009, 06:01 PM
Sounds awesome! Still waiting on mine. ;)

jared52
09-29-2009, 07:52 AM
Someone posted something on youtube on this thread

http://forum.losi.com/showthread.php?t=664

Ha ha, yeah I saw that, pretty crazy and I got a little dizzy watching it! :) Anyone else got anything?

richardjarosz
09-29-2009, 07:16 PM
I just got my strike and so far I like it. Would like to see this truck done in a 4 wheel drive 1/8 scale race roller. I also like that losi put hex wheels. I have sc10 and strip out rear wheels all the time. Nice work losi this adds to my truck collection. I have every truck made by losi sence day 1.

RadioControlled86
09-30-2009, 08:46 AM
just got my strike ! i like the way it handles . i didnt run it stock at all, as soon as i brought it home put my brushless set up in it. 4 sure gonna need those cvd's because my driveshafts are twisted up hardcore haha. but over all nice truck!

SalmonShark
09-30-2009, 11:30 AM
I have 2 strikes coming tomorrow and I have yet to pick up any spare parts. So a couple of questions.

Is it the drive shafts that everyone is twisting or the dogbones? I have read this multiple times across different forums now. And is Losi looking into this?

Also, I heard some people having Tx and servo issues... any validity to this?

I am hoping to be able to bash out of the box with them based on Losi's reputation. However, this is the RC world and we all know things will break eventually and will need to be upgraded. Any particular spare parts I should be looking for?

Thanks!
SS

Casper
09-30-2009, 12:10 PM
I have not heard any reports of broken plastic or shock parts from the team driver testing. A lot of us upgraded to the CVD's so that may have hide a problem with the dog bones. I ran the dog bones with the stock motor though and did not have an issue. The only "weak" part was the tie rods and they just bent and really bad crashes is the only thing I have heard of us going through parts wise.

SalmonShark
09-30-2009, 12:26 PM
I have not heard any reports of broken plastic or shock parts from the team driver testing. A lot of us upgraded to the CVD's so that may have hide a problem with the dog bones. I ran the dog bones with the stock motor though and did not have an issue. The only "weak" part was the tie rods and they just bent and really bad crashes is the only thing I have heard of us going through parts wise.

Don't think I asked anything about shocks or broken plastic, but thanks for the info.

So, is it the drive lines (between the trans and diff) that everyone is twisting, or are they twisting the axles (between the tire and diff)? I just want to confirm so I pick up the right spares.

Also - my other question, in regards to the servo and transmitter. Any news there? Read a few posts where people were having issues with these out of the box.

Thanks!
SS

PS - Stoked to see these show up tomorrow!

Casey Peck
09-30-2009, 01:32 PM
SS.......here are the dogbones in question

losb1208 click here
(http://www.losi.com/Products/Features.aspx?ProdId=LOSB2108)

SalmonShark
09-30-2009, 02:16 PM
SS.......here are the dogbones in question

losb1208 click here
(http://www.losi.com/Products/Features.aspx?ProdId=LOSB2108)

Thanks... ok I should be slapped... I looked at the exploded part view and just realized, those are the only dogbones on the entire truck...

So people are twisting these out of the box? Are the replacements the same as the in-box ones? Would hate to replace a weak link with the exact same thing.

Thanks again for all the help.

SS

Casper
09-30-2009, 02:55 PM
I have 2 strikes coming tomorrow and I have yet to pick up any spare parts. So a couple of questions.

Is it the drive shafts that everyone is twisting or the dogbones? I have read this multiple times across different forums now. And is Losi looking into this?

Also, I heard some people having Tx and servo issues... any validity to this?

I am hoping to be able to bash out of the box with them based on Losi's reputation. However, this is the RC world and we all know things will break eventually and will need to be upgraded. Any particular spare parts I should be looking for?

Thanks!
SS

Don't think I asked anything about shocks or broken plastic, but thanks for the info.

So, is it the drive lines (between the trans and diff) that everyone is twisting, or are they twisting the axles (between the tire and diff)? I just want to confirm so I pick up the right spares.

Also - my other question, in regards to the servo and transmitter. Any news there? Read a few posts where people were having issues with these out of the box.

Thanks!
SS

PS - Stoked to see these show up tomorrow!

You asked if there are any spare parts you should be looking for. I think the only weak link found so far is the bones. I was just stating we have not managed to break anything on the trucks other then bending tie rods that I know of. Truck is pretty stout. I am sure now that it is in the publics hands someone will tear one or two up jumping off insane stuff with huge power but the truck has proven VERY durable.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=LOSB3589

These are a good hopup for the dog bones.

SalmonShark
09-30-2009, 07:35 PM
Sounds good. Thanks again for the information. I'll look into getting some of the CVD's for them.

SS

Ansel
09-30-2009, 08:08 PM
If you replace the bones with CVD's will it then not be box stock? I.E. cant race with stock slash!

Strike Back
09-30-2009, 10:19 PM
Hi everyone, just thought Ide join the post with some results after first day. Truck just arrived to our local track Monday. I purchased and only switched rear camber link locations and adjusted spring tension. Not sure if the white stock springs are the softest though? I also ran 5 year old 3300 nickel Metal Hydride batteries ! Ended up with 2nd place and battled the whole way, People were cheering for the Losi as everyone was skeptical that it could even compete with an SC10, not to mention everyone runs lipo and brushless at our track !

Bottom line - The Strike is a serious contender !!! Right outta the box ! I love it and am nothing but satisfied with it.

My other race vehicle is a B4, its flawless, but this SC class is a whole new game and wanted what no one else has, at least for a little while. lol

First mods will be the CVD without a doubt, one dogbone already slightly bent!

Audiobahnaholic
09-30-2009, 10:57 PM
How do you guys break in the brushed motor in these for the longest life and best performance?

Strike Back
09-30-2009, 11:27 PM
Didn't break in at all. It's a rtr, assuming it's all set. I am gonna try a regular 27 turn Danton (monster based) stock motor to see which performs better , many have said any pro stock motor will be better, we'll see.

Casey Peck
10-01-2009, 12:20 AM
Its been a while for stock brushed motors for me but If I remember you will want to gear a monster based motor down a few teeth at least.

I'll bet Casper knows the answer to this one

Matt Sunderlage
10-01-2009, 05:15 AM
Well got my STRIKE on Tuesday, put in electronics that were in my SLASH: LRP TC Spec speedo, Futaba 9350, and Novak 10.5. All I did before the first run was raise the hide height, more in the front. I must say I was quite impressed!!:)
The truck had a very planted feel at my local track wit the kit set-up. The stock diff is quite free, actually doing the one wheel wonder thing, so I found some shims for touring car diffs to tighten it up. I'll be trying it today and racing tonite in Mod SCT.
Can't wait my STRIKE is a blast to drive!!!:D

I did have an axle get really chewed up after the second battery. The other side looks like it was never used. Bad part I assume......http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/MattSunderlage/IMG_0120.jpg

Hopefully my CVAs come it today.:)

Casper
10-01-2009, 07:59 AM
How do you guys break in the brushed motor in these for the longest life and best performance?

These RTR motors really don't require any break in. There are some really old school tips on breaking them in but to be honest I really don't think any of them are necessary. Keep the bushings oiled and let it rip.

We ran the slash motor for a 5 hour enduro (strike uses the exact same motor) and after the race we popped open the motor and the brushes had not fully seated yet!

My point is just run it. It should last a good long time! Keep it clean from dirt and the bushings oiled and you should get months of fun from it!

Didn't break in at all. It's a rtr, assuming it's all set. I am gonna try a regular 27 turn Danton (monster based) stock motor to see which performs better , many have said any pro stock motor will be better, we'll see.

For a heavy truck like a SCT I would not recommend a monster stock motor as those are RPM based motors. We ran ROAR rules (17.5 or 27T motors) at the Reedy this past weekend. There was one guy who was allowed in with his stock slash motor. His truck was way faster then the "stock" motor trucks. His ran closer to a 13.5 from what I saw.

The stock 12T 550 motors are a little hit or miss but if you get a good one, hang on. They can be pretty darn fast!

Matt Sunderlage
10-01-2009, 01:06 PM
Going to race it for the first time tonite...wish me luck!!!!!!;)

Audiobahnaholic
10-01-2009, 01:20 PM
I got my new Strike today. Boo on Red but oh well. Will post pictures up a little later. Mamba Max 7700 is in and it runs great. This was my first time behind a SCT and they seem to be real loose but they are so fun to drive.

Audiobahnaholic
10-01-2009, 01:24 PM
Also does anyone know where I can get a hex adapter? I am wanting to run the wheels off my 8ight buggy. They look so much cooler than short course wheels.

jmackani
10-01-2009, 07:19 PM
AKA makes hex adapters for the slash, but they depend on the pin in the axle which the strike does not have in the front.

Audiobahnaholic
10-01-2009, 07:26 PM
2.5 battery packs is all my strike lasted. The transmission case broke, a front turnbuckle broke and the outdrives broke. Needless to say I am a little disappointed since I just got it today and tonight it's junk. Hopefully Horizon will make it right, then I am considering selling it for a SC10. Something reliable.

Strike Back
10-01-2009, 08:05 PM
Casper,
Do you know what the rpm , and torque ratings are on the 12t 550 motor? Just curious. Im just getting into SC class after previous years and a pause from Sedan Road racing. All Iam familiar with is the sticker numbers from fantoms and Monster motors. So some numbers will help me.

I was just trying to attain some more "punch" or acceleration. But I suppose I can attribute it to my 5 year old GP3300 batteries ! lol I ended up with a 2nd place finish out of 8 trucks but everyone running sc10's with lipo and I ran box setup with old GP3300 but I rigged a 7-cell. #rd place used a 10.5 motor. I suppose top end was good but needed more punch. I suppose i could drop a tooth on pinion for starters? Appreciate any other suggestions,

Great thread ! Very helpful ! I love this truck and class !

Casper
10-01-2009, 08:47 PM
I have no idea what numbers are on these motors. I do know the variance on them is pretty good. Meaning the difference between a good one and a bad one is a lot.

These are the exact same motors that come with the slash which was on purpose for racing the truck in a spec SCT class with the slashes.

I dropped a tooth on mine for a tighter indoor track and got a lot more bottom end out of the truck.

A lipo will help a ton with punch as well. They are a lot lighter and they have more punch then nimh. Especially 5 year old GP3300's! :eek:

TFrahm
10-01-2009, 09:00 PM
2.5 battery packs is all my strike lasted. The transmission case broke, a front turnbuckle broke and the outdrives broke. Needless to say I am a little disappointed since I just got it today and tonight it's junk. Hopefully Horizon will make it right, then I am considering selling it for a SC10. Something reliable.

Not to sound critical or to doubt what you say, but what were you doing when all this damage occurred...?

The tranny case is the same as the one in my Slider sprint car which has been used, abused and thrashed on the local dirt oval track every week since they first came out and ZERO tranny case breakage. That's right at one YEAR of hard racing.

The Slider uses the same design turnbuckles and again -- one year of hard racing, massive impacts (at these speeds, if someone spins out in front of you, there is no time to avoid them -- BAM!). No breakage...

When you say the outdrives broke -- do you actually mean the diff outdrive cups broke or are you talking about the dogbones?

Maybe they got a bad batch of parts, but...?

I see you are listed as in Missouri -- If you are anywhere close to the Capital City, come out to the RC Race Barn some Saturday evening and We'll see if we can get your Strike tuned up and running right.

Audiobahnaholic
10-01-2009, 09:04 PM
When this happened I was running on my backyard track which is basically an oval with one small jump (10 inches high tops) I hit the jump twice and the second time the left front wheel canted over (turnbuckle broke) and I went to drive it back to me and nothing. So I went and picked it up and noticed the tranny case broke where the outdrive comes out right at the bearing. This then caused the pin that holds the outdrives in to break so you can just pull them out on command. The dogbones look brand new and the outdrive cups look brand new.

TFrahm
10-01-2009, 09:10 PM
When this happened I was running on my backyard track which is basically an oval with one small jump (10 inches high tops) I hit the jump twice and the second time the left front wheel canted over (turnbuckle broke) and I went to drive it back to me and nothing. So I went and picked it up and noticed the tranny case broke where the outdrive comes out right at the bearing. This then caused the pin that holds the outdrives in to break so you can just pull them out on command. The dogbones look brand new and the outdrive cups look brand new.

Wow -- that does sound like it might be a parts problem, because even my new strike has seen more abuse than that, and it's going strong (big jumps on a 400+ foot offroad track, with brushless power)...

Audiobahnaholic
10-01-2009, 09:12 PM
Wow -- that does sound like it might be a parts problem, because even my new strike has seen more abuse than that, and it's going strong (big jumps on a 400+ foot offroad track, with brushless power)...

Well I am running brushless as well but that shouldn't cause my issues, maybe twisted dogbones but my issues just seem to be the cause of weak metals. Boo to Losi for skimping on quality. I can tell by looking at the broken turnbuckle that they are pretty weak aluminum.

NetFryer
10-01-2009, 11:32 PM
Well, after all the waiting and excitement, i picked up a BND Strike just before last nights club race. Took it out of the box, bound my radio, put a lipo in, and ran the first heat.

HORRIBLY LOOSE in the rear.

Limped it around through the heat, took it back to the pits... moved the rear shocks to the outer holes on the arms... changed shock oil.... set the dogbones to level ride...

Went to go run heat 2... no steering. hmm....

Rebound radio, steering works.

Ran heat 2... twisted a dogbone... ***... with the stock motor & esc. Really... come on... my old jrx2 was more solid that this!

Messed with the steering some more since i couldnt run anymore... and found that whenever i turn on the truck... i only have throttle... no steering. BUT... if i rebind the receiver, the steering magically works.

I run 5 other cars/trucks with my radio and they are all fine, so im 100% doubting that it's my TX.

Will be calling Horizon in the AM... it really is some BS that it's this bad since it's aimed at entry level drivers and kids. This would really be a huge disappointment and turn-off for any newbie in R/C buying the Strike as their first vehicle.

I hope Horizon realizes this and rectifies the issues so we can draw more into the hobby, instead of leaving a sour taste in the mouths of anyone buying the Strike.
:mad:

Matt Sunderlage
10-01-2009, 11:50 PM
Well raced my STRIKE for the first time tonite and I was very impressed.

Lots of people had issues with driveshafts so owner called Losi and they sent up CVAs for all the trucks they got.NICE!!!:)

I'm sure Losi will address the issues no brand new car is perfect. The SC10 is not a god send I wouldn't sell your STRIKE yet. My SC10 just got shelved!!!!!:D:D

2fast4u
10-02-2009, 06:37 AM
I ran the Stike last night doing some laps at the local track, found the rear very loose, took the Bow Tie SC off my Slash and ran just the rears, it pushed really bad, the rear springs were too soft, the adjustment was maxxed, so i put a 10 mm spacer from the Slash on there, worked great, it still pushes, but now it is more predictable, you do have to use the brakes to get the truck to slide but still very controllable.
the steering does feel slow, but it has a RTR TX, going to try my TX tonight. the truck took alot of abuse last night, hitting walls, pipes, landing wrong. it seemed to hold up quite well. with a prepared track i think it wil do ok, with BowTies on all 4!

develdog
10-02-2009, 07:37 AM
At dixons rc raceway, you can racee all the different types of CORR style trucks together.
www.dixonsrcraceway.com

Audiobahnaholic
10-02-2009, 03:40 PM
I had the same issue with my receiver "losing bind" Called horizon and they don't want to warranty any of my parts even though it broke under normal more on the light side driving conditions and with less than 3 packs through it. What a joke they are. Pisses me off that even though I won the truck and it's free they won't fix their mistakes for poor quality materials. Hopefully when I talk to the Manager of Product Support he will warranty it so I can sell it or let me send it in for trade on a Team Associated SC10, something that won't break in under 1 hour run time. BOOO LOSI on this one.

TFrahm
10-02-2009, 04:26 PM
"HEADS UP":

I haven't sent my bad steering servo in yet, but when I do I'll have to be VERY CAREFUL...

The manual says the Strike uses the LOSB0818 Servo...
WRONG!
The Strike (at least mine) uses the LOSB0819 "High Torque" servo.
If they send you the 0818, it will not be strong enough to do the job...

Strike Back
10-03-2009, 07:08 AM
Well, even after a second place finish in the first time racing the strike, I spent some practice time last night trying to get more speed. I realized after watching on you tube that mine seem as fast and I was right!!!!! I went to swap spur and pinion combos, and to my surprise it had a 106 tooth spur installed rtr instead of a 90-tooth!!! I put in the included 88 spur and ran with an 18 pinion and was faster than another guy with sc10 and a 10.5 brushless!!! These motors can be fast but I am pretty upset about the wrong part. Trying to get local shop to give me a correct spur

Audiobahnaholic
10-03-2009, 09:07 AM
What a joke this is. I will never buy another horizon hobby product again. Everyone talks so highly of their customer service. Ya right. They don't want to warranty their junk, I said I'd like to send it in to trade for an SC10 something that won't break and they transfer me twice I get mad a manager is supposed to call me back never does. What a customer service team. I like my 8ight buggy and in my opinion the only line Losi has worth buying is the 8ight everything else is junk.

TFrahm
10-03-2009, 12:25 PM
What a joke this is. I will never buy another horizon hobby product again. Everyone talks so highly of their customer service. Ya right. They don't want to warranty their junk, I said I'd like to send it in to trade for an SC10 something that won't break and they transfer me twice I get mad a manager is supposed to call me back never does. What a customer service team. I like my 8ight buggy and in my opinion the only line Losi has worth buying is the 8ight everything else is junk.

I know I have noted some flaws with my Strike, but I must also say that I still love the truck and overall I still feel it is a good product. The Slider I've raced for a year had some similar problems when first released -- everyone on the assembly line is learning too, and there are always issues. (Sort of like with software, if you buy version 1.0, you expect some issues...)

Also -- there is no way they are going to let you trade in a broken Strike in exchange for an SC10 -- that sort of demand just makes it less likely you will get cooperation from their support people (asking Horizon/LOSI to give you an Associated truck is like slapping them in the face). also, I honestly suspect your change to brushless power may have contributed to the tranny outdrive issue -- especially if the slipper was too tight. If the slipper is locked up (which happens to this slipper if not adjusted properly), then there is NOTHING to "give" in the drive train... Landing a jump on-power with brushless power means big stress and something MUST give -- the design of an open gear diff means that the spider gears push out on the outdrive gears, perhaps hard enough to damage the case. There is no way to tell for sure, but it would explain that problem. (With the Slider, tight slippers used to contribute to blown diffs when the center gear was plastic -- the Strike has a STEEL center gear, so now something else becomes the weak spot)...

Email losi support, ask for replacement parts only (they will probably do what they did with me -- tell you to fill out a form, copy your receipt, and send in the bad parts), but I can't believe they won't work with you if your demands ae reasonable...?

Audiobahnaholic
10-03-2009, 01:33 PM
I actually was nice and told them what happened and they only wanted to replace the receiver that "loses bind." I said you guys aren't going to stand behind it and the product support guy said no it's not under warranty. I didn't tell him it was brushless or anything I just told him withing 3 packs it broke. He wouldn't fix it I then got angry and said well why cant I send it in for an SC10 and he said you'll have to speak with customer service so he transferred me, I spoke with him and he said product support will have to take care of it and said he'd have the manager call me. I get off work at 3pm so I requested he called after 3. At 4:30 I called back and the operator who asks how to transfer your call answered and I explained to them the product support manager was supposed to call me an hour and a half ago and I was just checking in. He said he'd have the manager call me and the manager never called. I am going to call and try again monday but it seems like everything I have ever bought Horizon support has tried to jerk me around like I'm a newb which I am not.

I don't feel the Associated request was a slap in the face because they carry associated brand. I race an RC10T4 every week with the mamba max in it with no tranny issues or any issues at all. I feel it is a far superior product. Like I said my 8ight is the only Losi I have ever driven I feel is worth buying. It's just ridiculous they won't replace parts because of a weak design or material. It's not my fault.

shadowracer24
10-03-2009, 03:17 PM
Wanted to say thanks to Casper for the setup you posted here. Ran my new strike at the local track last night in a money race. Qualified third in the a main with it and ran down the leader in the last two minutes of the race and the truck was hooked up. I finished 2nd place ad lost by just 2/100 of a sec. in a drag race to the line Needless to say I am very happy with my strike and it has now become my primary race vehicle. Don't care a whole lot about the stock tires which by the way are crap, but a set of goosebumps on this truck really makes it fly.

Casper
10-03-2009, 04:15 PM
Great job shadowracer.

Glad some of you are having fun with your strikes. Those that are having dog bone issues and servo issues. I am really sorry to hear about this. I know they guys are losi are aware of the issues and I am sure they are working to get to the bottom if the issue. I understand that does not do much for those that have malfunctioning cars right now but losi customer service is great. I have not dealt with horizon a whole lot but the losi division has always been great. See if you can get them to transfer you to Losi vs. dealing directly with Horizion.

Matt Sunderlage
10-03-2009, 05:58 PM
Casper did you ever try the gear diff?

I'm sure the gear diff is best for racing, but I like the gear diff in a SCT.
With the ball diff this thing is going to be a rocket!!!!:)

Briguy
10-03-2009, 07:04 PM
Carmelo , I am surprised they are treating you like that . I`ve had nothing but great service with anything under warranty or repair work .

Casper
10-03-2009, 09:53 PM
Yeah I ran it with the gear diff. It was fine. Ran like it had a gear diff in it! :p

The ball diff it should corner better. The inside tire will not diff out as easy which is the problem with a non sealed gear diff. IT really is not that bad though. Truck runs just fine with the gear diff. IT is just better if you are allowed to run the ball diff.

2fast4u
10-04-2009, 06:57 AM
does Losi replace the mangles dog bones? these ones have one race, no qualifiers, the track owner's truck has twisted dog bones now, he does not drive fast and has stock motor and esc. i was surprised at the damage after one race. is this a common complaint?

Briguy
10-04-2009, 07:04 AM
Call Losi/Horizon . If it is a common problem then they should be notified and should replace them or get going on making stronger ones .

TFrahm
10-04-2009, 08:53 AM
I'm starting to wonder if some of us (at least ME) may have misdiagnosed a problem with the stock electronics... I've posted my issues with the stock servo working/not-working/working/not-working, etc... Saturday I was going to race my strike -- I had swapped out the steering servo with a good JR Z590M, and I have replaced the ESC/motor with brushless (I'll have to run in the Mod/Expert class anyway, so...)...

Well Saturday I had the truck handling GREAT -- then it just "died" -- no response to the radio of any kind... I thought it might be the battery, but just unplugging the battery and plugging it back in got it going again... Then it "died" again (no response of any kind)... OK - maybe it was the battery -- change to another one... Ran a few laps -- just "died" again... Sooo... The only stock electronics in the truck is the receiver -- maybe that was the problem all along (especially after going back on here and other forums and seeing some posting issues with losing 'Bind', etc.) -- I'll have to try another receiver for next week..:confused:

Real bummer to not get to race it this weekend, but maybe I'm a step closer...:(

Rookie
10-05-2009, 10:21 AM
So after looking at the strike I thought there were a couple changes that could be done right off. Any one else swapped the steering rods to the top of the front hub? seems to allow better adjustment of the front toe and keeps the link closer to level through out the throw of the suspension. What are mods that you guys have done to your rigs?

bigron
10-05-2009, 08:06 PM
The outdrives are moving in and out of the tranny freely. Is that normal for this style tranny?

Matt Sunderlage
10-05-2009, 08:16 PM
So after looking at the strike I thought there were a couple changes that could be done right off. Any one else swapped the steering rods to the top of the front hub? seems to allow better adjustment of the front toe and keeps the link closer to level through out the throw of the suspension. What are mods that you guys have done to your rigs?

You can raise the rear body mount to get the body off the tires....

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/MattSunderlage/IMG_0121.jpg

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/MattSunderlage/IMG_0125.jpg

The posts are Traxxas part # 1914 I believe. Works great!!!!!!

I also replaced the stock tierod with Traxxas ones. If you use Lunfords they have to be 3.5mm.



Can't wait to race it again Thursday. I won last week and it only faster now!!!!!!!!:)

jmackani
10-05-2009, 08:18 PM
Is there any chance in some type of toe adjustment for the rear end other than using the 9807 or 9808. Most tracks are forcing the use of the stock parts.

Matt Sunderlage
10-05-2009, 08:25 PM
Here's some pics of my body I just painted....

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/MattSunderlage/IMG_0137.jpg

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/MattSunderlage/IMG_0140.jpg

Body looks good in "CORR" flavor!!!:)

Matt Sunderlage
10-05-2009, 08:28 PM
Yeah I ran it with the gear diff. It was fine. Ran like it had a gear diff in it! :p

The ball diff it should corner better. The inside tire will not diff out as easy which is the problem with a non sealed gear diff. IT really is not that bad though. Truck runs just fine with the gear diff. IT is just better if you are allowed to run the ball diff.

Yeah inside tire get light quick is tighter corners where it leans good.:D
Ball diff on order!!!!;)

Over all I'm impressed with it for only tuning it for a week.

BMXRDAD
10-05-2009, 08:50 PM
Matt,

Great looking truck, I am leaning more toward the strike each time I see one.
Are you not using the 2.4 receiver?

BMXRDAD
P.S. Thanks for the D.T. Tips they are working great.

TFrahm
10-05-2009, 10:22 PM
The outdrives are moving in and out of the tranny freely. Is that normal for this style tranny?

Yes and no... Yes, the outdrives can move in/out since they are not 'locked' in place in the diff. And No -- in that you do NOT want that movement to be excessive or you risk damage to the diff, since they keep the center gear and the side bevel gears & spiders in alignment. With the stock dogbones, there is a small o-ring in the axle drive cup to reduce the end to end play a bit... I suspect it might be a good idea to add a similar o-ring in the diff outdrive cup to further reduce what seemed to me to be excessive end play.

I have already changed over to the CVD's, and since I'm still using the gear diff, I installed small coil springs (front springs from an old pan car) -- they are fairly soft, and are short enough that they do not bind up the suspension travel. With this setup, the diff outdrives are always held in place... This is the same method I used on my Slider when I converted to CVD's, and it worked for months before I changed over to the ball diff...

Casper
10-05-2009, 10:40 PM
The outdrives are moving in and out of the tranny freely. Is that normal for this style tranny?

Yes for the gear diff the outdrives are floating in the diff.

Canuck
10-06-2009, 10:22 AM
My Strike finally arrived yesterday. I put a brand new 4800mah NiMH into it. What kind of top speeds should I expect? What length of run times should I expect?

I'm new to electric so could use some info. Thanks.

catechdiver
10-06-2009, 01:12 PM
can anyone post or direct me to any set-up sheets that work well. Also what about pinion/spur gear combos that work well with the stock motor. Thanks a lot.

TFrahm
10-06-2009, 02:37 PM
My Strike finally arrived yesterday. I put a brand new 4800mah NiMH into it. What kind of top speeds should I expect? What length of run times should I expect?

I'm new to electric so could use some info. Thanks.

My guess is around 20 MPH +/- (the strike is designed for offroad, not high speed parking lot runs)...

I would also guess somewhere around 10-15 minutes with a 4800, depending on how you drive it. An 8-minute offroad A-main only uses 2000-2400 mAh, but that includes a lot of low speed, technical areas of the track...

tinkerbell
10-06-2009, 02:42 PM
After waiting for about 2 months, I finally got my Strike this past Friday. Haven't been able to run it because here in Texas its been raining and the track is too wet to run it. :(

Canuck
10-06-2009, 04:31 PM
My guess is around 20 MPH +/- (the strike is designed for offroad, not high speed parking lot runs)...

I would also guess somewhere around 10-15 minutes with a 4800, depending on how you drive it. An 8-minute offroad A-main only uses 2000-2400 mAh, but that includes a lot of low speed, technical areas of the track...

I had no idea what to expect for speeds, but I noticed it was a lot slower than my LST2 and definitely my pimped out 8ight T 2.0. :p

Would a high end LiPo pack add a lot to that? I went NiMh due to current course rules, but that might change.

Casper
10-06-2009, 06:42 PM
A lipo will help but I doubt it will be what you were looking for. For insane speed you should upgrade to a BL system.

karrick
10-06-2009, 07:47 PM
I just got a strike on Saterday. Went to go race and could only get through one heat. I got the RTR and I had no stearing. If someone there would not have let me brow one of there DSM transmitters I would not have been able to race. I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion on why this could have happened.

jmackani
10-06-2009, 08:01 PM
A high lipo on the stock motor will not make any difference in speed. Brushless yes, but not the stock motor. Try a 7 cell nimh.

Casper
10-06-2009, 08:59 PM
A lipo will make a difference. It will lighten up the car and if it is a good lipo 30C or better it will make the truck faster. Just not blazing fast if that is what you are looking for.

Audiobahnaholic
10-06-2009, 09:04 PM
I just got a strike on Saterday. Went to go race and could only get through one heat. I got the RTR and I had no stearing. If someone there would not have let me brow one of there DSM transmitters I would not have been able to race. I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion on why this could have happened.

It seems to be a common problem the truck just mysteriously loses bind. Mine always has throttle and brake just randomly loses steering but if you rebind it, the steering comes back for a while. I just switched receivers and it helped. I think Losi should have put more testing into this turd before releasing it.

Casper
10-06-2009, 09:20 PM
We had at least 8 test trucks and none of them had problems. We were all running DX3R's though. I know losi is looking into this servo/receiver problem and are working hard to find out what is going on.

TFrahm
10-06-2009, 10:35 PM
It seems to be a common problem the truck just mysteriously loses bind. Mine always has throttle and brake just randomly loses steering but if you rebind it, the steering comes back for a while. I just switched receivers and it helped. I think Losi should have put more testing into this turd before releasing it.

It's tempting to tell you to "chill" or something like that, but that's not fair to you or anyone else, but I will try to encourage you to put this into perspective... I bought my Strike at the LHS, so I know the size of the investment a truck like this represents... I have had issues and problems, so I know how frustrating it can be... I've also been racing since 1989 -- I've seen a lot of new vehicles come out, seen the problems the first ones ALWAYS seem to have, and I've seen how companies like LOSI stand behind their products and work to make them "right"... In today's world of off-shore manufacturing, prototypes tend to be better than the mass produced production runs that follow -- it's simply a matter of hand-built prototypes vs production runs on an assembly line...

Casper is right -- they ARE working on it -- they will 'fix it' and throwing gasoline on the flames won't help. Even with the electronics issues I've had, the Strike is NOT a "turd" -- it is actually a pretty good race truck. I just got back from the track, and mine is now dialed in and although I will swap out the last of the electronis before I throw down with the SC10's, etc. and I expect to be competitive. for around $200, that ain't bad...

In case you were wondering, NO -- I'm not "sponsored" -- I've just been racing LOSI vehicles offroad since the days of the LXT and ProSE and the people there like Todd and Keith, etc. deserve a little faith and trust because they are good people. Same with their team people like Casper, etc. -- they tested the truck in good faith -- just because they didn't have the problems some of us have doesn't mean they didn't do it right -- make a dozen of something and you have a small, special sample -- make a few thousand and it's a whole new world...

Hang in there, have some faith, and be part of the solution and not the problem -- by posting the issues you've had and discussing fixes or ideas about the causes, you actually contribute to the solution, so keep posting, just don't sling mud...

TFrahm
10-06-2009, 10:41 PM
A lipo will make a difference. It will lighten up the car and if it is a good lipo 30C or better it will make the truck faster. Just not blazing fast if that is what you are looking for.

+1

I was at the track tonight (practice night), and a new guy showed up with a stock Slash, which has the same motor as the Strike. He was having a tough time of it -- unable to clear any of the doubles and just "slow". He was running NiMh packs... I loaned him a 40C Checkpoint LiPo I had already been running with for a while, but that sill had plenty of charge... The first time he punched the trigger, his eyes popped open -- it was like a different truck. Now he was clearing the doubles and he had speed on the straights...

This is a real world example of what Casper said -- a good LiPo WILL make a difference...

Audiobahnaholic
10-06-2009, 11:05 PM
We had at least 8 test trucks and none of them had problems. We were all running DX3R's though. I know losi is looking into this servo/receiver problem and are working hard to find out what is going on.

I had this issue and am running my DX3S that works flawlessly with my other 3 cars.

It's tempting to tell you to "chill" or something like that, but that's not fair to you or anyone else, but I will try to encourage you to put this into perspective... I bought my Strike at the LHS, so I know the size of the investment a truck like this represents... I have had issues and problems, so I know how frustrating it can be... I've also been racing since 1989 -- I've seen a lot of new vehicles come out, seen the problems the first ones ALWAYS seem to have, and I've seen how companies like LOSI stand behind their products and work to make them "right"... In today's world of off-shore manufacturing, prototypes tend to be better than the mass produced production runs that follow -- it's simply a matter of hand-built prototypes vs production runs on an assembly line...

Casper is right -- they ARE working on it -- they will 'fix it' and throwing gasoline on the flames won't help. Even with the electronics issues I've had, the Strike is NOT a "turd" -- it is actually a pretty good race truck. I just got back from the track, and mine is now dialed in and although I will swap out the last of the electronis before I throw down with the SC10's, etc. and I expect to be competitive. for around $200, that ain't bad...

In case you were wondering, NO -- I'm not "sponsored" -- I've just been racing LOSI vehicles offroad since the days of the LXT and ProSE and the people there like Todd and Keith, etc. deserve a little faith and trust because they are good people. Same with their team people like Casper, etc. -- they tested the truck in good faith -- just because they didn't have the problems some of us have doesn't mean they didn't do it right -- make a dozen of something and you have a small, special sample -- make a few thousand and it's a whole new world...

Hang in there, have some faith, and be part of the solution and not the problem -- by posting the issues you've had and discussing fixes or ideas about the causes, you actually contribute to the solution, so keep posting, just don't sling mud...


I understand what you are saying. I am actually getting rid of the truck Saturday. I wasn't really downing anyone except Losi. I know everyone here will stick up for them but I am very unhappy with their customer service because I called and they didn't want to warranty anything, so I offered to send it back for a partial refund or for a SC10 something that won't break and a Manager was supposed to call that was Friday and still no call. I called Monday morning and after going through 3 reps one offered to warranty the parts. That's ridiculous if you ask me. I don't want you to doubt me either I am no newb. I've won races and have never had an issue with any company warrantying products except Horizon/Losi. They always jerk me around. Not your fault and frankly not anyone's fault except the company. I'd love to drive everything Losi but the only Losi I have driven that suited my driving style was my 8ight and I love the way it handles now that I have a setup I like on it. The strike IMO seems poorly planned and pointed toward a new guy so they can keep having issues and increase horizon's profits. They should have based it off their existing truck platform and had a winner. Sorry if I come off bad, I just do not like this vehicle at all. It's a PITA to work on. I think the strike would be a fantastic truck if someone wanted to invest in titanium turnbuckles and the transmission parts to make it better. Other than what I would call weak materials it's a decent driving truck.

jmackani
10-07-2009, 07:11 AM
I have both 20c and 40c lipos and I can't see any difference. The weight factor from nimh to lipo is about the only advantage. I beleive the stock motors can't really use the higher discharge rates anyway. Go ahead and spend top dollar for the 40c, but I think you are wasting your money.

jmackani
10-07-2009, 09:55 AM
What is the max amp rating of the stock speed control? I think the motor is about 10 amps peak.

jared52
10-07-2009, 10:16 AM
Does anyone know the dimensions of the battery tray?

jmackani
10-07-2009, 10:33 AM
The math can easily prove it also. The speed control amperage does not really matter if the max of the stock 550 motor is 10 amps. By doing the math for a 20c 5000mah battery=100000mah or 100 amps output. Now for the time calcuation. 5000mah/60minutes=83.3x20c=1666. Take 5000/1666 and it's roughly 3minutes of run time at a 100 amp draw. So our 550 motors can only do a 10 amp draw. Multiple the 3 minutes time 10 and it will last roughly 30 minutes. And that's assuming you are on the thottle 100% of the time. Probably not the case.

Now the 40c 5000 mah example. 40c x 5000mah=200000mah or 200 amps. Using the same time calculation shows 5000/60=83.3x40c=3333. Take 5000/3333=1.5 minutes for a 200 amp draw. 200 is 20 times more than our motors can do so take 1.5x20=30 minutes again.

If you do not have a motor with a higher max amperage then the additional discharge rate is doing nothing. It's still supply the same amount of voltage.

TFrahm
10-07-2009, 10:46 AM
If you do not have a motor with a higher max amperage then the additional discharge rate is doing nothing. It's still supply the same amount of voltage.

Actually - not true... Every part of an electrical circuit has some resistance, and that includes Batteries -- a LiPo with a higher 'C' rating will also have a lower internal resistance. Given that, in a circuit (Voltage Loss = Resistance * Current)... Lower internal resistance means that less of the battery's voltage is lost internally -- leaving more for the motor -- making it faster. Higher amp draw situations see more of this "savings" than low amp draw situations, but given that most brushed motor offroad vehicles average around 20 amps or more for a 5 minute race, the difference is significant.

jmackani
10-07-2009, 11:28 AM
Measure the voltage at the motor between 20c and 40c and let me know if you see a difference. I don't think you are going to. I checked and at full throttle they both max out at about 7.44

Matt Sunderlage
10-07-2009, 11:48 AM
Matt,

Great looking truck, I am leaning more toward the strike each time I see one.
Are you not using the 2.4 receiver?

BMXRDAD
P.S. Thanks for the D.T. Tips they are working great.

Sweet! I'm really happy with the truck, I think its the best one out now (I own all 3).:)

I just haven't made the jump to 2.4 yet, I think I have like 11-12 FM Rxs so it would be expensive to replace them with 2.4 counterparts.:eek:

Glad to hear the DT is running good!!!

Won with my STRIKE last week now my eyes are set on my track record set with my SC10!!!
Can't wait to race tomorrow nite!!!!:D

Silent But Deadly
10-07-2009, 01:10 PM
The strike IMO seems poorly planned and pointed toward a new guy so they can keep having issues and increase horizon's profits.

LOL ok how do you increase profits when you piss off the customer the second they buy it, I doubt that is Losi/Horizon business plan. Sell it once so they won't come back?

Crap happens and its to bad the guy who wins a free $200 truck has this happen. If I was the marketing team, I'd probably be a little reluctant to do this again.

Sell your truck and move on with your life at least you won some free cash.

shadowracer24
10-07-2009, 03:14 PM
I've run three races with my strike so far on a track that is well known in our area for doing pretty good damage to all sct that run on it. I have had no issues at all and have been very competitive at the track. I am very happy with it and use it as my primary vehicle now.

karrick
10-07-2009, 05:34 PM
I was wondering if anyone knows if there is any upgrades for the strike yet. My brother runs a slash and has 1/8 tires on and I Like his set up. I was wondering if there is a conversion kit made yet for it. Also I was wanting to upgrade the skid plates on the under side. Let me know.

TFrahm
10-07-2009, 10:26 PM
I was wondering if anyone knows if there is any upgrades for the strike yet. My brother runs a slash and has 1/8 tires on and I Like his set up. I was wondering if there is a conversion kit made yet for it. Also I was wanting to upgrade the skid plates on the under side. Let me know.

Various things I've seen imply that the AKA 8th scale tire conversion for the SC10 will work...

Canuck
10-08-2009, 04:13 PM
Would you recommend using a LiPo cut off, or does the Strike have any sort of built in safety feature?

TFrahm
10-08-2009, 06:06 PM
Would you recommend using a LiPo cut off, or does the Strike have any sort of built in safety feature?

The stock ESC includes the ability for "LiPo Cutoff"....

From the manual:
Battery Selection: When the ESC is powered on, the LED will be
flashing for 2 seconds to indicate the Selected Battery Type.
During this time the user can press the key to toggle between
LiPo and NiMH/NiCd modes. After the key has been pressed
(battery type selected), the LED will flash for 2 more seconds.
A. Turn on ESC and push button once within 2 seconds, push
again to toggle between modes.
B. Red light indicates LiPo mode (with 6-volt cutoff)
C. Green light indicates NiMH/NiCd mode

Strike Back
10-08-2009, 07:17 PM
Is the Strike going to be legal in events for Spec racing against SC10, HPI, etc...some locals were saying cause the wheelbase is longer it wont qualify for the class?

Also, Casper......I have the stock motor now. I was running good (decent). Turned out getting another 2nd place finish in A Main second week in a row...I have a little more top end than a few guys. !st place guy is fast, runs an sc10 with Novak ss 17.5. Seems like everyone has alot more bottom end pull. Is that the immediate difference with a 17.5 BL? Im running lipo 5000 20c now. Gearing was the 90-18.

Casper
10-08-2009, 07:37 PM
The Strike is too long for the PROVISIONAL Roar rules. I am assuming they will tweak them to allow the strike in for next years rules.

The SC10's do seem to have a lot more bottom end. Now that I have some side bite on the truck I am going to work to see if I can get it to accelerate a little better but I have noticed that is something the SC10's have over the strike at the Reedy. If you have good top end on the field go down another tooth if you are not getting too much wheel spin.

Strike Back
10-08-2009, 07:56 PM
Yea, you are right about that...they have some crazy bottom end, but i always seem to catch them so i guess its not bad. its really just about driving.

I know I have also asked this in a way before, but I am looking into a good 17.5 BL. I was assuming the bottom end would improve. Or not? Im assking also cause a local said that if I used my old Novak GTX with a fantom stock motor it would be more efficient and faster than the 12t stock motor and speedo? All the rules always say 17.5 is comparable to a stock brushed, is that for real? Will a stock brushed 27t have enough torque for an SC truck?

Casper
10-08-2009, 11:45 PM
I would say BL motors will have a torque advantage. The kit 12T motors can be fast. If you get a decent to good one it will be faster then a 17.5. That is what I saw at the Reedy race.

As for brushed and BL. BL again will have more bottom end and if geared properly should have similar top end. A brushed motor might have a little more top end assuming you are not using a dynamic timing BL speedo.

I would go BL as it's extremely low maintenance is well worth its cost.

Matt Sunderlage
10-09-2009, 05:09 AM
Casper do you know what approximate rate the stock STRIKE springs are??

Also have you shimmed the up and down slop out of the steering rack, and how far down is you servo saver collar????

Thanks!!!:)

TFrahm
10-09-2009, 07:30 AM
Casper do you know what approximate rate the stock STRIKE springs are??

Also have you shimmed the up and down slop out of the steering rack, and how far down is you servo saver collar????

Thanks!!!:)

I don't know how they are officially rated, and of course, I'm not Casper, but...

I have a rig I use to test springs and the 4 on my Strike average out to about 3.4#/in -- of course, they are wound to be progressive, so at full compression they would be stiffer than that.

Canuck
10-09-2009, 10:45 AM
The local (2 hours away) indoor racing club is going to put in a SCT class this year. We'll be racing on carpet. Any thoughts on set up for running on carpet??

Casper
10-09-2009, 11:22 AM
I had no idea what the spring rate it. I put normal losi shocks on to test out and I have silver in front and red in back and I seem to like that balance pretty good. Just fooling around with stuff! :D

Carpet. No idea how to start. Stiffen it up a ton and go from there. The good news is the kit tires will probably work decent on carpet! ;)

jmackani
10-09-2009, 01:40 PM
I would not be so quick to point out the kit tires as a problem. One of our local racers put them on his slash and he did quite well with them. I think it's more of a weight issue at the rear end. Makes sense since the motor is now in the middle.

Casper
10-09-2009, 01:49 PM
The truck has a ton of steering out of the box. The kit tires are not completely useless, they do work but there are better choices out there. Taking steering away from the truck and then finding some forward bite will take some setup tweaks from the box settings.

jmackani
10-09-2009, 06:28 PM
Most of us I think are running spec classes that do not allow the changing of hubs, tires, etc. So, you have to work with the supplied kit. The open classes allow tire changes, motors, etc. I am sure with different tires made for racing the rear end would be a lot better. Like you said, you have to play with different settings to get the rear end settled down. It is possible on the stock tires.

Strike Back
10-09-2009, 10:10 PM
Tonight at practice I matched the record time set by an sc10 at our track ! I was using stock tires up front, and Jconcepts Goosebumps in rear. Only other upgrade was cvd's just got today. Everything else....motor, electronics all bone stock. In fact I even geared the car down to a 17t pinion and it was faster.

Regarding motors though, i'm waiting on the arrival of my Novak 17.5 BL to run with my GTB. Currently I am using stock box 12T motor with the 90-17 spur/pinion combo. But with BL, do they have more torque requiring a bigger pinion, or do they have more torque and RPM? Please let me know how they compare for gearing with the box stock motors.

Thanks guys !

TFrahm
10-09-2009, 10:28 PM
I haven't tried a 17.5, but I currently have my Novak 13.5 geared 26:90 in my Strike -- This is the same rollout as what I also use in my XXX-TCR for Expert Truck... I would assume you might need at least a 28t pinion for a 17.5...?

I think I remember Casper posting that he ran a 17.5 at a big race (The Reedy?) -- hopefully he can post something better...

Matt Sunderlage
10-09-2009, 10:36 PM
Casper: Thanks for the spring suggestion, out of curiosity what pistons did you have in the Losi shocks you had on your STRIKE?

TFrahm: Thanks for the input as well.

I'll try some different springs tomorrow.

No ball diff yet, but I figuired out a way to shim the diff to make it tighter!!:D
I managed to "shark tooth" an idler gear last night.:eek:
I think that was mostly my fault though....:o

Casper
10-09-2009, 11:17 PM
Casper: Thanks for the spring suggestion, out of curiosity what pistons did you have in the Losi shocks you had on your STRIKE?

TFrahm: Thanks for the input as well.

I'll try some different springs tomorrow.

No ball diff yet, but I figuired out a way to shim the diff to make it tighter!!:D
I managed to "shark tooth" an idler gear last night.:eek:
I think that was mostly my fault though....:o

57's with the same oil as the other shocks. 35 front 40 rear.

Strike Back
10-10-2009, 06:55 AM
Casper,

do u use a 17.5 in the strike? You didn't have it filled in in the setup sheet. I was wondering what gearing combo you recommend.

mars
10-10-2009, 07:25 PM
Should the stock esc on a bnd give 100% in reverse?

Mines giving maybe 10% reverse, and isnt even enough to back up in most cases.
Forward is fine and gives plenty of power, reverse has almost no power.
Ive tried resetting the esc for forward/reverse many times now, and end points as well. still no change.
Help!

Ralph47
10-11-2009, 07:09 AM
Love the Truck!!! just a few things I ask myself about it. Why does the right rear shock hit the dust cover cap? The other is when are the HOP-UPS coming out?
Other than that I'm haveing a ball driving this STRIKE