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Lanzen
09-01-2009, 06:43 PM
Hey guys,
I was wondering if there are any suggestions any of you have on a good steering servo? I have heard mixed emotions from my local community, and I'm interested to know what a good value will be for best performance. Again, I'm new to this end of the sport, so any help is greatly appreciated.
MitchellBurkey
09-01-2009, 06:45 PM
JR 9100T
best servo I've had in my buggy, hitec just didn't do it for me
What is your budget? That will help us work out which one would be best for you
Lanzen
09-01-2009, 07:14 PM
Probably $60 - 100 would be ideal. I can go a little more if there is a huge performance boost.
Hitec HS-7955TG. they are the best ive ever used
if you get them here they are super cheap
http://www.rc-mall.net/productL2.php?brand=hitec&model=HS-7955TG&type=servo
JR 9100T you are looking around $135 but Amain has them on special for $119
Type: Ultra High-Torque Digital Servo
Torque: 300 oz/in @ 4.8V, 370 oz/in @ 6V
Speed: .18 sec / 60 degrees @ 4.8V, .15 sec / 60 degrees @ 6V
Dimensions: 0.83" x 1.59" x 1.57"
Weight: 2.3 oz
Gears: Metal Gears
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_61_100/products_id/18804/n/JR-Z9100T-Digital-Ultra-Hi-Torque-Surface-Servo-Metal-Gear
Tyler Willmon
09-01-2009, 11:01 PM
I am going to definately vouch for the JR series of servos. I love their new line of 9100's, cant go wrong. I have even often times used the speed (9100S) as a steering servo for the steering. Besides, can't beat the JR 3-year warranty!
Todd Hodge
09-01-2009, 11:20 PM
I have had really good luck with the JR9100T as well.
Briguy
09-02-2009, 12:35 AM
I switched to running JR a few years ago and never had any of the problems I did with Hitec servos . 9100S & T are the best IMO .
Neobart
09-02-2009, 01:53 AM
If you get Hitec make sure it's the TG series. I've seen random failures from other Hitecs but them.
JR hmmmm, I have a DS8611a that developed massive slop after 2 gallons of use. That's just not good enough in my book.
Have a Hitec 5955TG(now replaced with 7955TG) with more than two years of abuse. Just replaced the sacrificial gear in it and it's like new, no slop at all.
Losi_Racer
09-02-2009, 02:03 AM
jr is awesome, i use 9100t in steering and jr 4800t for throttle. Just sent in the 4800 due to an error on my part, was expecting to be paying for parts. they sent me a brand new one saying in short: your messed up, but for customer service we are replacing it.
everyone says hi tec customer service is great, my dad had to send a servo that was bad out of box and they charged him because the motor was bad ***!
I haven't had good luck with Hitec either. 2 best servos on the market are JR and Airtronics
FatBoyObese
09-02-2009, 04:51 AM
I've been running HiTecs for a while now with no issues...as Neobart says "Make sure to get the TG series"
I have a 7995tg on steering and a 5995tg on throttle
beeker
09-02-2009, 09:46 PM
I have a couple of each the 9100t&s that i prefer over most my other servos. only had to service one over the past couple years and they simply replaced it. horizon/jr has supreme customer service. iv also used a couple ko propo 2386 lately and see the quality in those as well. still for steering i almost always prefer a jrz9100t
TrU Integra
09-04-2009, 08:05 PM
Ive had issues with JR's wearing top cases, gear set's failing and the motor's plain out failing on the 9000 and 9100 series....compared to i feel the Hitec servo's are far superior in almost every way.....i personally wont run anything but Hitec on Steering.
My main point when servo discussion's arise at the track are Brass VS Titanium.......BRASS VS Titanium.....i know the answer.....do you. :p
Kicker
09-05-2009, 05:02 AM
all i can say is the stock servos that came with my 8t 2.0 rtr were junk. Lasted a week. I went to hi tec tg servos and i havnt had one issue sence.
Robknasel
09-05-2009, 05:41 AM
I have seen alot of JR servos, 9100T specifically go bad. Everytime I see someone have a servo go bad I look to see what type it is. Recently we had a Futaba BLS352 go bad. I agree that HI-Tec makes the best High Torque servos. I am going to upgrade to the Hi-Voltage servos soon. The JR Hi-Voltage servos are just too pricey in my opinion. $200 for a servo. Dont believe the servo really cost any more to produce. Just a different spec. And with the history I have seen with JR Servos I am not confident they will last any longer. Sure the 3 year warranty is nice. But who says wow at least I have the 3 year warranty when they lose a Main or dont finish a qualifier due to the servo failing. I buy almost everything Horizon based products, but this is definately one exception.
Rob Knasel
Dishsoap
09-06-2009, 12:04 AM
Ive had issues with JR's wearing top cases, gear set's failing and the motor's plain out failing on the 9000 and 9100 series....compared to i feel the Hitec servo's are far superior in almost every way.....i personally wont run anything but Hitec on Steering.
My main point when servo discussion's arise at the track are Brass VS Titanium.......BRASS VS Titanium.....i know the answer.....do you. :p
This is a good point. Just think about it for a second. When a doctor has to put metal in your body for a broken bone etc. do they use brass or titanium.
Hitech 7955 all the way. I have put these servos through **** and they are just as strong as the day I got them.
Jeremy
09-07-2009, 05:46 AM
I agree with Integra here. A couple of weeks ago I had 3 JR 9100 servos fail during the ROAR Region 4 nitro championships. My buggy(8 2.0) went WOT on the starter box almost causing my Speed motor to blow. Then the steering servo went out also. Finally and most unfortunately, another bad 9100T in my truggy (8T 2.0) took me out of my final qualifier which was on a TQ pace, landing me in the C main. With $350 in broken servos it was a bad weekend.
I repalced the bad servos with new Hitec 7955s and hope to send the JRs in to get fixed, but I am afraid to even use them as backups because of the high rates of failure I have presonally seen lately.
apache_sim
09-07-2009, 06:31 AM
I have been using SAVOX and I find them excellent. Both Quick and powerful!!
TrU Integra
09-07-2009, 07:51 AM
I agree with Integra here. A couple of weeks ago I had 3 JR 9100 servos fail during the ROAR Region 4 nitro championships. My buggy(8 2.0) went WOT on the starter box almost causing my Speed motor to blow. Then the steering servo went out also. Finally and most unfortunately, another bad 9100T in my truggy (8T 2.0) took me out of my final qualifier which was on a TQ pace, landing me in the C main. With $350 in broken servos it was a bad weekend.
I repalced the bad servos with new Hitec 7955s and hope to send the JRs in to get fixed, but I am afraid to even use them as backups because of the high rates of failure I have presonally seen lately.
that sucks dood....where did you finish rd 4 ?...i laugh inside when i hear guys say the JR's will be backup's to the Hitec's.....LoL funny stuff.
Casey Peck
09-07-2009, 01:46 PM
hvs9100's are good, they seem to keep me going.
Jeff Harper
09-08-2009, 02:58 PM
I think there will be stories of failures and succeses with every brand of servo out there. I have seen alot of failures of multiple brands of sevos at the track sometimes due to how the kit was built or a binding issue or what have you. Several brands are pretty dang good, then you narrow it down with price and customer service I suppose.
Sometimes, metal can be too hard and cause wear or damage to something else. Seeing as how brass is used for bushings, it must have very good wear characteristics. I would imagine all this is looked at when a manufacturer chooses to use one material over another. I am sure each materials have their "pros and cons".
TrU Integra
09-08-2009, 05:14 PM
If anything Titanium is too strong and it break's steering components before anything else. :D
RJNicholson
09-09-2009, 12:58 PM
You also have to remember that Digital servos have double the holding power of the actual rated torque.
So a 250oz+ torque servo can actually hold its postion with over 500oz of torque, so yes with these new stronger "titanium" servos and what not you will def brake steering components.
I'm not surprised people break other stuff other then the servo most of the time. I have taken nasty wrecks, but have never broken a digital "highend" servo.
I only use Hitech 7955's or 7965's and JR HVS/T 9100's. Both amazing digital servos, and can handle anything thrown at them. Only the JR has one up on the Hitech because their HV line is made of a fully machined ALU case. I have broken ears on the Hitech's plenty of times, but not these new JR's.
And no I haven't gotten the JR jitters on the HV servo's... They no longer use plastic 1st gears, so no stripping teeth easily and having a servo that can't find it's center.
TrU Integra
09-09-2009, 01:07 PM
Are the gear pins captured by Bushing's or Not ? i could have Sworn i saw a pic of the inside of the top case and there were no bushing's....strait hole in the alum for the pin.......RJNicholson have you had the top case off yet ?
RJNicholson
09-09-2009, 01:16 PM
Actually I haven't had to take off the case since I have had no issues with them, but good point I should check it. Hopefully they do. (They should ******) I didn't even think to check them. I just stuck them in and forgot about it.
I will check tonight as racing was yesterday and tonight is tear down night and rebuild.
I will post pics once I open them up and let everyone see first hand if they do or not. Unless someone else has already done this and can post before I tear down tonight.
I didn't even think to look at them when I got them. I have run over 4 gallons on them now, and thats hard driving since I am still new, so my consistancy is a joke right now, and not a single issue except for having to tighten my servo saver it was a little loose, and I couldn't turn lol.
Casey Peck
09-09-2009, 01:16 PM
no bushings alu straight thru
RJNicholson
09-09-2009, 01:22 PM
Here is a pic of the top gear set. No pic of the case on the JR site. It does have a bearing it rides on that sits in the top of the case (not for the pins though).
Neobart
09-09-2009, 01:22 PM
That's the problem with the DS8611a. It has the pins going right in to the plastic case, no bushings. No wonder it develops so much slop. Shame really, it's been a solid servo even with that massive slop.
LVBaja
09-09-2009, 01:34 PM
I run the JR9100T for steering and the JR9100S for throttle on both my 8ight 2.0 and 8ight-T 2.0 and they've been great. I've only had one failure in nearly a year of racing with them every weekend, and that was due to the throttle servo being mounted too close to the chassis and being bumped constantly as the chassis flexed. The speed and torque ratings on these servos are hard to beat also.
TrU Integra
09-09-2009, 02:18 PM
no bushings alu straight thru
i though so.....what grade alum is the top case ? i would think Alum would not be the most wear resistant and would oval out sooner then later....but that all depends on the grade of alum they are using as 6000 series alum is Significantly softer then say 7000 series.
Casey Peck
09-09-2009, 02:29 PM
ok so to recap... Integra will not ever buy a JR servo and wants to make sure no one else does either. J/k that is the way it is coming off though. We could debate them all week but It all comes down to what people have trust in. If you can trust your equiptment thats half the battle.
Casey Peck
09-09-2009, 03:24 PM
integra.......where are ya. just having a little fun. I would have to agree that the alu would be soft but not as soft as brass I think.
RJNicholson
09-09-2009, 04:23 PM
Well if it does put oval wear into the top of the case no worries. I will just get a new case. I don't see this happening for years if that though. When it does I'm sure I will have gotten my dollar out of them. He(double hockey sticks) I personally think I already have.
TrU Integra
09-09-2009, 06:16 PM
integra.......where are ya. just having a little fun. I would have to agree that the alu would be soft but not as soft as brass I think.
Im a LONG way from ya buddy...Winnipeg Manitoba to be specific.....BUT with the winter closely creeping in I might just make a trip down to AZ or something for a big race as my winter racing is questionable as of right now. Canadian Winter Nats is up in the air and the WOR "Winter Off Road" series i was doing in Minnesota previous year's might not be happening this year...so Blah im gonna join you guys at one of the Bigger races.
I realize guys like different stuff....but i feel as through most if not all my point's i make about servo's is pretty genuine...i don't really have a reason to lie...ive been down the road before and say it like it is....but i hear ya on the "different strokes for different folks" :p
Casey Peck
09-09-2009, 08:05 PM
Im a LONG way from ya buddy...Winnipeg Manitoba to be specific.....BUT with the winter closely creeping in I might just make a trip down to AZ or something for a big race as my winter racing is questionable as of right now. Canadian Winter Nats is up in the air and the WOR "Winter Off Road" series i was doing in Minnesota previous year's might not be happening this year...so Blah im gonna join you guys at one of the Bigger races.
I realize guys like different stuff....but i feel as through most if not all my point's i make about servo's is pretty genuine...i don't really have a reason to lie...ive been down the road before and say it like it is....but i hear ya on the "different strokes for different folks" :p
Well come on out there is so much racing going on from dec to mar in my neck of the woods its not fair compaired to where people actually get "winter":D
TrU Integra
09-10-2009, 07:28 AM
Well come on out there is so much racing going on from dec to mar in my neck of the woods its not fair compaired to where people actually get "winter":D
so you offering a place to stay while im in town. :p
Nah just joke's....Owner of Team Terrible's Mr James Allara aka Jaz offered me a place....what race should i plan for casey ?
Casey Peck
09-10-2009, 10:21 AM
if there is one not to miss it's the Nitro Challenge in Jan
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