Ask Frank Root

[Frank Root]

Hey Guys,

I am new to the Team in 2010, but would like to put myself out there for any questions you may have. I am running the full line-up of Losi Racing products, so to hit me up. Also, if you see me at the track, please come up and introduce yourself!

Thanks!
Frank

[Matt Chambers]

Where we racing this weekend? :)

[Frank Root]

Where we racing this weekend? :)

When are you coming out? I have to work Sat-Sun, but was going to run on Friday. So far it looks like the weather should hold out and we were gong to run some nitro during the day, but I might head down to West Coast and run that night if we get done during the day.

[Matt Chambers]

I get in Friday pm... I'll call ya about next weekend

[Michael Guzman]

Hey Frank,

Congrats on the first round of JBRL. Looking good with the losi :D

[Frank Root]

Thanks Michael, you were going pretty good yourself!

[Chuck Hicks]

Hey Frank, hows it going with your Nitrotec stuff. Been tinkering with mine a little bit and seem to have got it pretty good. Just wondering what your setup was on it.

[Frank Root]

Hey Chuck,

I actually haven't run nitro since NC..lol I know Kevin and Dyno have been running alot though. Talking with them they change the gear, and I know they said it made a big difference with the power band. Hit up Dyno and get the skinny.

Frank

[Chuck Hicks]

Thats kinda funny Frank, I havent raced electric since Cactus. lol

Thanks yo
Chuck

[chadmillikan]

Hey Frank, What tires were you running at the 8th scale champ. at OCRC

[Frank Root]

Hey Chad,

I ran Pink Taper Pins with AKA foam. They seemed to be the fast tires. Ryan and Matt both ran Pink King Pins, and were really happy with the overall consistency. I might go that route for a little better tires wear, and it'll make the car a little easier to drive.

Frank

[Chuck Hicks]

Hey Frank, you start getting everything ready for Nationals? Did you work with your engines yet?

[Frank Root]

Hey Frank, you start getting everything ready for Nationals? Did you work with your engines yet?

Hey Chuck,

I am not going to be going to the Nitro Nats this year, Electric instead. I did run at the Nitro JBRL over the weekend, but got a drop-in engine and it ran well without me having to change anything.

YGPM.

Frank

[Chris Wheeler]

Hey Chuck,

I am not going to be going to the Nitro Nats this year, Electric instead. I did run at the Nitro JBRL over the weekend, but got a drop-in engine and it ran well without me having to change anything.

YGPM.

Frank

If your not going who am I gonna borrow a yellow body from if I have to run in the mud?:D

[Chuck Hicks]

If your not going who am I gonna borrow a yellow body from if I have to run in the mud?:D

:p huh!!!!!

[Chris Wheeler]

:p huh!!!!!

im pretty sure you meant HEH!! lol;) or as Casey would say BLEH!!

[Frank Root]

That's why I am not going...lol

[Chuck Hicks]

Yeah! Be Frank Root.

[Frank Root]

I will be..


Feel free to hit me up with any questions guys!

[Frank Root]

Here is the setup I have been running lately. Let me know what you think. Items in ( ) are suggestions to dial in the car at your local track, or somethings other drivers on the team are/have run(ning).

FRONT:
Toe: +1 (0)
Ride Height: 24mm
Camber: -1 (-1.5) degree
Caster: stock-30*
Sway bar: no
Oil: 25wt (27.5 w/ Orange spring)
Piston: 56
Spring: Red (Orange w/ 27.5)
Limiters: none, unscrew shock bottoms 5 turns
Spindle Height: bottom
Axle Spacer: narrow
Steering Type: Bellcranks with outer hole. Shorten the drag link .060”
Bump Steer: none
Camber Link: 3-B with 3 (2) washers
Shock Location: 3 (2)-Outside
VLA: Long
Front Wing: no

REAR:
Toe: stock
Pivot Support: 3 degrees .060" washer under front of block; .050” washer under rear of block using XXX Alum pivot and BK2 arms-LOSA9800 and hubs
Ride Height: 23.5 (23) mm
Camber: -1 (-1.5) degrees
Rear Hub Spacing: back + .030” further back
Driveshafts/Outdrives: steel/cvd
swaybar: no
Oil: 27.5wt
Piston: 56
Spring: White (Grey)
Limiters: .060"
Camber Link: 3-b (4-5 washers with Trinity hubs)
Shock Location: 1 (2)-Inside
VLA: short

Wing Position/mount: Forward/ low
Body & wing type: XXX-CR
Losi 5000mah LiPo moved all the way forward
Battery Position: forward
Notes: 1/4 oz weight on each side of steering servo, 1/2 oz in front bulkhead with aluminum pivot ( which is an additional 1/4 oz over plastic) 1/2 oz under servo arm and 1-1/2 oz next to RX across from ESC.
If you use a Trinity or old XXX front tower, you only need the front shocks unscrewed 3 turns
Raise the rear tower .060”

[DevilDucky]

Hey Frank I was wondering what kind of setup you were running on the 22 for the SDRC Grand Opening Race?

[Frank Root]

I ran the Dustin Evans Reedy Race setup exactly. It can be found here:

http://www.tlracing.com/ProdInfo/Files/TLR0022_Setup_DustinEvans.pdf

[DevilDucky]

Sweet thanks, it was good seeing you down here thanks again for coming out last month for the race!

[DevilDucky]

Thanks for coming out for Saturday even if I had to sit there drooling over that 22T! Meant to pick your brain more on the 22 buggy set-up but the motor went poof in the first heat hopefully get another chance one of these days.

[Frank Root]

Thanks for coming out for Saturday even if I had to sit there drooling over that 22T! Meant to pick your brain more on the 22 buggy set-up but the motor went poof in the first heat hopefully get another chance one of these days.

It was a fun event, I really enjoyed myself. Always feel free to come over and pick my brain, I am always willing to help.

[Audiogod92]

Hi Frank, I just recently put together a xxx-sct with a tlr kit and was racing with Derek Lamb at Pegasus last friday night. He suggested to me that I contact you on set up tips? Im trying to get the truck dialed in for the short course race this saturday at Pegasus. Im running a Tekin rs and redline 17.5. 84t spur and 24t pinion. Any help with set up, tires, and weights in the truck will be greatly appreciated. Thanks

[Frank Root]

Hi Frank, I just recently put together a xxx-sct with a tlr kit and was racing with Derek Lamb at Pegasus last friday night. He suggested to me that I contact you on set up tips? Im trying to get the truck dialed in for the short course race this saturday at Pegasus. Im running a Tekin rs and redline 17.5. 84t spur and 24t pinion. Any help with set up, tires, and weights in the truck will be greatly appreciated. Thanks

I will be glad to help. If you can send me your email, I send you the setup I will start with. I am not an expert about 17.5T gearing since I have run mod for a while, but I am sure there will be others present that will be able to help. I will be race this weekend at Pegasus, so please feel free to come over, introduce yourself, and ask any questions you may have.

Thank you,
Frank

[Audiogod92]

Thanks...my email is kingofaudio@hotmail.com. My wife and I have already pre registered for saturday so I will see you there.

[jaybuc]

Hey Frank!

Do you have any setup sheets for the xxx-sct? I am running on hard clay track here in Florida

[Frank Root]

What is your email, I'll send it to you.

Frank

[jaybuc]

jmilltn@gmail.com

Thanks Frank! Really appriciate the support

[Frank Root]

jmilltn@gmail.com

Thanks Frank! Really appriciate the support

YGM

Frank

[chaseman]

Hey Frank, My name is Chase and I ran mod sc with you last night at westcoast (11-5-11) and your truck looked awesome. I was the dude that finished second and you helped me with my gearing that morning and it helped alot thanks. I would really like to compare setups for westcoast with you and noticed that you have sent your setups to other users and I could use some more of your expertise. If it aint too much trouble my email is chasenehrlich@gmail.com and if you could send me your setup from last night Id be super stoked!. Thanks Frank!

[Frank Root]

Hey Frank, My name is Chase and I ran mod sc with you last night at westcoast (11-5-11) and your truck looked awesome. I was the dude that finished second and you helped me with my gearing that morning and it helped alot thanks. I would really like to compare setups for westcoast with you and noticed that you have sent your setups to other users and I could use some more of your expertise. If it aint too much trouble my email is chasenehrlich@gmail.com and if you could send me your setup from last night Id be super stoked!. Thanks Frank!

Email sent!

[chaseman]

Thanks Frank!

[BRSracing]

I am installing the ball differential in the xxx sct. There is one cupped washer that is not listed in the instructions in the kit. The cupped wahser is also not listed in the xxx cr instructions for building a ball diff. I noticed this washer also comes with the replacement monster diff? Can't figure out where it goes?

[Frank Root]

I am installing the ball differential in the xxx sct. There is one cupped washer that is not listed in the instructions in the kit. The cupped wahser is also not listed in the xxx cr instructions for building a ball diff. I noticed this washer also comes with the replacement monster diff? Can't figure out where it goes?

You will not need to use it when using the spring.

[chaseman]

Hey Frank, I had a question about the setup that you sent me and if you could help that would be awesome. On the rear hub carrier you have the box marked for short on the arm and with the tlr hub carriers you cannot change the length like you can with the stock ones, you can only change the position of the hinge pin. Are you running the stock carriers short or the tlr ones with the hinge pins inside? Can you clear this up for me? Ive got the rest of the setup complete besides this and cant wait to run this weekend at westcoast in mod sc and thanks in advance. Chase

[Frank Root]

Hey Frank, I had a question about the setup that you sent me and if you could help that would be awesome. On the rear hub carrier you have the box marked for short on the arm and with the tlr hub carriers you cannot change the length like you can with the stock ones, you can only change the position of the hinge pin. Are you running the stock carriers short or the tlr ones with the hinge pins inside? Can you clear this up for me? Ive got the rest of the setup complete besides this and cant wait to run this weekend at westcoast in mod sc and thanks in advance. Chase

I run the TLR hubs, with the pin hole through the inside fo the arm and the inside of the hub.

[chaseman]

Thanks Frank.

[BRSracing]

Hey Frank any chance of getting your latest xxx sct setup? brsracing@comcast.net

[Frank Root]

Hey Frank any chance of getting your latest xxx sct setup? brsracing@comcast.net

Email Sent!

[chaseman]

Hey Frank, I just got a 22 and was wondering what setup your running at westcoast. Is it your latest on tlracing?. And also Im running and 8.5 with 76/22 what do you think of that for westcoast? Thanks

[Frank Root]

Hey Frank, I just got a 22 and was wondering what setup your running at westcoast. Is it your latest on tlracing?. And also Im running and 8.5 with 76/22 what do you think of that for westcoast? Thanks

Hi,

Yes, the setup on tlracing.com is pretty much exactly what I have been running at WC. 22/76 is close for gearing, it might go up or down 1 tooth dependent on which motor you are running.

Thanks,
Frank

[chaseman]

Thanks Frank, Im running a 8.5. What is your tire choice there?

[Frank Root]

Thanks Frank, Im running a 8.5. What is your tire choice there?

By type of motor, I didn't mean the wind, but the make. I.e. Orion, LRP, Tekin..etc.

I run Gold Bar Codes front and rear with JC closed cell rear and Losi stock front foam.

[Losi b]

Any chance you can post a picture or 2 of the bottom of the 22T with the lexan pieces that the team drivers are adding to secure the body flaps with velcro. I cannot envision how to attach the lexan to the plastic chassis pieces. Thanks, Brian

[Frank Root]

Any chance you can post a picture or 2 of the bottom of the 22T with the lexan pieces that the team drivers are adding to secure the body flaps with velcro. I cannot envision how to attach the lexan to the plastic chassis pieces. Thanks, Brian

Photos of Dustin's truck are here:

http://www.thebigrc.com/?p=1705

[Losi b]

Thanks Frank, I'm asking how to attatch the lexan to the car. I'm guessing that they are using the screws that hold the side pods of the chassis to screw the lexan on but it seems like the lexan could get torn off pretty easily. Would you mind posting a picture from the bottom side of the chassis, please.

[Frank Root]

Thanks Frank, I'm asking how to attatch the lexan to the car. I'm guessing that they are using the screws that hold the side pods of the chassis to screw the lexan on but it seems like the lexan could get torn off pretty easily. Would you mind posting a picture from the bottom side of the chassis, please.

Unfortunately, I do not have direct access to either Dustin or Mike's trucks. They do use .030" lexan and screws/nuts to attach them to the side guards, and to my knowledge, have not had to replace them to this point (since Nationals).

[Losi b]

Thanks Frank. If you happen to see them soon, could you get a close up pic of the bottom for me please.

[Frank Root]

Thanks Frank. If you happen to see them soon, could you get a close up pic of the bottom for me please.

You can feel free to ask Dustin or Mike in their threads if you really need it. If I wanted to make something like that, I would just start to improvise and make it happen ;)

[Deano43]

Hi frank I have recently started racing again after a 10 year gap and have just brought a losi 22 , now even though I've got a set up for the car I am finding it difficult to find info on the car itself so I can try my own set ups I.e what certain parts do like castor / link mounts / kick up/ shock positions/ ect ect , what I want to know is by changing a piticular item say from 10deg castor to 5 deg what effect does it have and that's for every changeable part on the car so racers can make there own setups to suit there driving styles. You may already have these online but I am buggered if I can find them if you already have this info , so pease can anyone give me a link or a list of changes so I can set me own car up and I have found some stuff I.e bladders vs emulsion shocks but not all like link positions ect , rc companies used to put these in the back of the instruction manuals at one time With kind regards Ian

Ps I've posted it's on the ask the drivers board but wanted to ask a team losi driver directly to , A/ get your opinion & B/ see what TLR racing has a whole thought, my views are simple if the info is there and easily accessible for beginners or average club racers with little knowledge of setting up cars then the more people you can attract to racing and hopefully with a losi car.

[rubin17]

Hi Frank, Just wanted you to know I'm a big fan and love the fact that you are willing to share your knowledge with the not so good drivers. I admire you for that for sure, because honestly, there aren't that many of ya left!! Anywho, I've come to ask you about gearing for the 22. I have a 76 spur, Viper 13.5 motor and Viper Esc. 2.2 wheels and mid-motor set-up. The track is really tight with load's of grip (carpet) and a lot of 90 degree turns in it. I haven't tried any sized pinion but I was going to go with a 28. What do you think? Any help would be greatly appreciated. rob

[Frank Root]

Hi frank I have recently started racing again after a 10 year gap and have just brought a losi 22 , now even though I've got a set up for the car I am finding it difficult to find info on the car itself so I can try my own set ups I.e what certain parts do like castor / link mounts / kick up/ shock positions/ ect ect , what I want to know is by changing a piticular item say from 10deg castor to 5 deg what effect does it have and that's for every changeable part on the car so racers can make there own setups to suit there driving styles. You may already have these online but I am buggered if I can find them if you already have this info , so pease can anyone give me a link or a list of changes so I can set me own car up and I have found some stuff I.e bladders vs emulsion shocks but not all like link positions ect , rc companies used to put these in the back of the instruction manuals at one time With kind regards Ian

Ps I've posted it's on the ask the drivers board but wanted to ask a team losi driver directly to , A/ get your opinion & B/ see what TLR racing has a whole thought, my views are simple if the info is there and easily accessible for beginners or average club racers with little knowledge of setting up cars then the more people you can attract to racing and hopefully with a losi car.

Thanks for asking. We do not have an all-encompassing setup “book” available right now. Most setup changes are consistent between cars, but the result can even vary depending on grip levels, driving style and other setup parameters. If you have specific questions, please feel free to ask.

We do take time to post on a particular topic on the TLR Blog from time to time, so check it out the link below, there are already some great articles in the blog!

http://losiracing.blogspot.com/

Hi Frank, Just wanted you to know I'm a big fan and love the fact that you are willing to share your knowledge with the not so good drivers. I admire you for that for sure, because honestly, there aren't that many of ya left!! Anywho, I've come to ask you about gearing for the 22. I have a 76 spur, Viper 13.5 motor and Viper Esc. 2.2 wheels and mid-motor set-up. The track is really tight with load's of grip (carpet) and a lot of 90 degree turns in it. I haven't tried any sized pinion but I was going to go with a 28. What do you think? Any help would be greatly appreciated. rob

I did some of the testing for the 22 RTR ESC and Motor. It is a non-timing setup, and the motor is a Losi motor, but I landed on 28 or 29 pinion with a 76 spur as the ideal gearing. As long as you are running your Viper ESC without timing, 28T should be a good place to start.

[rvinvents]

hey frank;
i just watched your video on the new sct body and your truck is so dialed and i cant seem to find any setup sheets for the ten scte what setup were you running there and what do you run at ocrc? it sure would help as my truck is close but its missing something in the turning, thanks

[rvinvents]

hey frank im new to the forum but i just watched your video on the new sct body and your truck is so dialed and i cant seem to find any of your setup sheets for the ten scte what setup were you running there and what do you run at ocrc? it sure would help as my truck is close but its missing something in the turning, thanks

[Frank Root]

hey frank;
i just watched your video on the new sct body and your truck is so dialed and i cant seem to find any setup sheets for the ten scte what setup were you running there and what do you run at ocrc? it sure would help as my truck is close but its missing something in the turning, thanks

I run the "Aaron Lane Setup" found here:

http://losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/LOSB0127_Setup_Lane-JBRL4.pdf

[rvinvents]

thanks for the fast reply