Ask Adam Drake

[Adam Drake]

Hello everyone! Please post any questions and I will try and answer them as soon as possible.
Adam Drake

[Casey Peck]

So how was the strike and Hot Rod?

[Adam Drake]

Casey Peck- Club Racing at Hot Rod Hobbies Tuesday night was great. They had 100+ entries. I raced both 1/8th buggy and Open Short Course. The Strike I raced was out of the box (BND), I used the stock motor, servo, and a Losi lipo. The Strike was a blast to drive and handled awesome.

[Casey Peck]

Cool Adam sounds like fun. I ran my Strike the same way last night but we got rained out. Oh well, It was a blast while it lasted.

[Bobby Credeur]

Adam, what is the benifits of running drilled pistons versus standard pistons?

[Adam Drake]

Bobby Credeur- A drilled piston will have a little more pack then a std. molded piston becase the drilled pistons are actually a little smaller. Always start with a piston with smaller holes first. If you want to run drilled 54's, use a molded 55 or 56 piston and drill all six holes with a #54 drill bit.

[Todd Hodge]

I see racers are starting to use 8 hole pistons on the front of their 8IGHT 2.0's. What are the advantages of this and what is your recommended setup for using a 8 hole piston? How do you make an 8 hole piston?

[Adam Drake]

I start with a 56 piston and drill two new holes using a #56 drill bit. Then drill every other hole with a #55 drill bit. You end up with four 56 holes and four 55 holes. Start with 37.5wt oil. Running 8 hole pistons will allow the buggy to drive flatter and not roll over the front end as much on high grip tracks.

[matt woodcraft]

what do you think about doing this in the truggy will it work better ?i have quiet a few spare sets but i have never tested drilled pistons ?

how do yo know when a change of piston is worth trying :confused:

[TIX]

Hey Adam

Out of interest what setup were you running on your truggy and buggy at the Australian RC Pro event?

[Adam Drake]

matt woodcraft- If your truck has too much steering or is difficult to drive the 8 hole pistons wil help smooth out the steering and make the truck drive flatter. Knowing when to change pistons comes with time and testing. I would give the 8 hole pistons a try in the front and see how it works at your local track.

TIX- I ran my std set-up for both buggy and truck.
http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/DrakeROARFuelNats.pdf
http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/DrakeSS098t2.pdf

[TIX]

Cheers Adam

[Dan Ross]

Adam, what kind of run time do you get with your truggy?

[Reggie L]

im going to makeing some of those shock towers you guys run on the truggy in the next few weeks...:cool:

[axial28rr]

hey Adam did you have any thing special under the hood of the lst when you raced in the 2008 ROAR Championship ??

[83nji]

Hi Adam,
I run my 8ight 2.0 on astro and it is super grippy and the car doesn't sit very level on fast corners, i put on a thicker rear anti roll bar on the rear and i felt a little bit of difference but i think the droop stops it from working very effectively. Do you have any useful advise i could try?

Also my buggy has a tendancy to bottom out on medium sized jumps and I don't really know what to do to stop this. Could I try thicker shock oil in the front and rear, as the track is fairly smooth and doesn't have may bumps? Would that also help it cornering more level?

Thanks
Ben

[losibob]

Hi Adam

Are you planning on racing at Phillips race Labor Day Weekend ??


Thanks Bob :p

[Reggie L]

casey p. replys quicker ask him

LOSI NEEDS TO MAKE A BETTER PION TO SIT PROPERLY IN THE RING GEAR... shimming wont hold for long if the pion dont even sit in the pion right

[l3asher]

casey p. replys quicker ask him

LOSI NEEDS TO MAKE A BETTER PION TO SIT PROPERLY IN THE RING GEAR... shimming wont hold for long if the pion dont even sit in the pion right

Is this what CP said?

[Reggie L]

naa im saying that,,, post in the ask casey p and we can tlk about it there since he's one a few times a day no sence of crowding adam's topic up:cool:

[tommy2112]

Hi Adam

Are you planning on racing at Phillips race Labor Day Weekend ??


Thanks Bob :p

would be nice if you could show up

[Losi_Racer]

Adam, Congrats on your wedding this weekend. Have fun Keep up the great work

[kysho]

oh adam drake got married good for u adam keep it up

[lilphil257]

So adam drake do u think the electrick conversion is faster than the stock setup

[Ryan Rockcuffs]

Congrats on the wedding dude - hope you and Ronda have lots of happiness!

[Adam Drake]

Dan Ross- With the Plus 4 in truck I can run 12:30 to 13:00 min and with the Toro Nero about 11:30 to 12:00.

Axial28rr- I used the forward only transmission, with the gear flipped inside to give the truck more top-end. Stock Losi 427 engine, with JP-3 pipe. Graphite chassis, plastic shocks, sway bars, 17mm wheel hexes, 8ight brake disc, and 8ight wing.

83nji- send me an email to adrake@horizonhobby.com and I will send you my set-up for astro.

Losibob- I can’t make it. I will be on my honeymoon!

Losi Racer- Thanks!

Kysho- Thanks!

Lilphil257- Would you please explain?

Ryan Rockcuffs- Thanks!

[dakotah97]

Congratulations!!! The wedding pictures looked awesome! Ronda made a beautiful bride!

[Curtis May]

Adam,congrats on the wedding dude i wish you and Ronda the best of luck and a long and happy marriage.

[losidave8]

hi adam just wondering any good set up advice for the 2.0 t? my club are building a purpose built astro track and im looking for some good tips. im currently running the factory set up.

would just like to congratulate darren bloomfield who won the proline challenge over here in the uk well done:D:D

[losini]

adam congrats by the way, what restrictor do u run in the carb of the toro nero , im running this engine in my buggy im gettin about 10 min with a finishing temp of 220f would this be correct?, also what plug do u use and what temp does the engine run at when your getting almost 12 mins for a tank

regards

[Losi_Racer]

hi adam just wondering any good set up advice for the 2.0 t? my club are building a purpose built astro track and im looking for some good tips. im currently running the factory set up.

would just like to congratulate darren bloomfield who won the proline challenge over here in the uk well done:D:D

read 3 post above yours, he already answered your question.

email him adrake@horizonhobby.com and ask him for the set up, he will send it to you

[Birdy]

I think a few of us in the Uk will be intrested in a Astro setup, maybe if Adam could post a setup sheet and send us a link on hear which will save us all emailing him.

[Tom Jordan]

I just came back from the pro-line international in the UK and i am goin there again next week for a National. At the pro-line international i ran 54 pistons front and rear with 40wt in the front and 37.5wt in the rear, i came to the conclusion at the end that the car did not handle the bumps very well but was great round the rest of the track.

Im not sure wether to go thinner in shock oil or to change the pistons to 55 or even 56...:confused:

[Adam Drake]

dakotah97- Thanks Dakotah!

Curtis May- Thanks Curtis!

losidave8- I haven't run the 8ight T 2.0 on astro yet. I will try and get Darren's astro set-up for you.

losini- I've only run the Plus 4 in buggy. In truck I use a 7mm, C6TGC plug, and 9901 pipe. I would try a 6mm for buggy with the Toro Nero.

Birdy- I will have the set-up posted on www.losi.com

Tom Jordan- I will try and get Darren's set-up from this past weekend. I think you will like running more pack in the rear with thinner oil.

[losibob]

HI ADAM HOW LONG SHOULD YOU LET THE FRT CENTER CVD DRIVE PIN WEAR BEFORE REPLACING IT ? MINE IS WORN TO ABOUT 1/2 THE DIAMETER THAT IT WAS NEW SO THEREFOR HAS LOTS OF SLOP THE TRUGGY SEEMS TO DRIVE FINE. JUST WONDEING WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING IF ANYTHING TO FIX THIS HIGH WEAR PROBLEM

THANKS BOB:cool:

[losidave8]

thx adam looking forward to hearing from you:D

congrats on the wedding!!!

[dadsvtechonda]

i was wondering if losi is coming out with the prototype rear shock tower for the 8ight t 2.0:D

[Adam Drake]

losibob- The front center pins doesn't really hurt anything by being worn. I usually replace the bone once I have used two of the pins at the joint (set screw).

losidave8- Thanks!

dadsvtechonda- We are curently just testing with the tower.

[l3asher]

Adam, has there been any thing said about rear diff going out? I asked in another thread but all they say is make sure it is shimmed. I have seen to many fail at the track lately to say its a shimming problem.

[Adam Drake]

l3asher- The shimming of the ring and pinion on any truck is very important because of the small pinion. We are looking into a way to improve the life of our truck ring and pinion.

[Neobart]

I just switched the ring and pinion on mine after 3-4 gallons of runtime. The diff did last a little longer on my 1.0 as far as I can recall, but not by much. It was a bit stressful to have to change between mains, when running buggy and truggy.;)

[l3asher]

l3asher- The shimming of the ring and pinion on any truck is very important because of the small pinion. We are looking into a way to improve the life of our truck ring and pinion.

Thanks Adam, that's what I wanted to hear. I'm can handle losi looking into the problem. This is a great truck and really like the way this beast drives. Any time frame on a fix?


Thanks.

[t0ddy_44]

Hi Adam, I seen you racing at thr RCPro series in oz, and you signed my losi xxxg4 buggy wing so thanks for that!
I have just purchaced a Losi 8 2.0 roller and i was wondering...besides the obvious set up process is there any particular chassis check i should perform before running my buggy???

thanks Todd

[Adam Drake]

l3asher- I don't have a time frame, but we are looking into it and hope to have something soon.

t0ddy_44- G' Day mate! The buggy will be very good out of the box. We have a lot of set-ups on-line and if you have any questions please feel free to ask here or send me an email. adrake@horizonhobby.com

[t0ddy_44]

Thanks Adam im going to give it a run this weekend, ive already sold my m8 on an 8 2.0 just by showing him the box!!!!

[Adam Drake]

t0ddy_44- Sounds good. Have a great weekend and Good Luck Racing!

[jim]

Hey Adam, Can you tell me what pipe comes on the 8T rtr 2.0?

[Neobart]

Not Adam(obviously) but it's the same pipe that came with the Muggy, and almost identical with the HT pipe on the LST2 and XXL. Only difference being the position of the pressure tab.

[Losi_Racer]

Adam:

Is there a certain feel you go for when tightening the servo saver? i think mine is a tad loose but i not for sure. I turn the wheels by hand when the truck is off and the wheels will slam back to straight but there just not a lot of resistance when pushing the wheels. Is this good or bad

[TrU Integra]

Ive always stated its a feel thing....and you cant really say how many turns on the collar....but i want to see what Adam has to say in regards to that because i often question if im setting it too loose or too tight....but there again i run Bomb proof hitec's for steering so i dont for see much of a problem even if it is set a little tight. :p


Thx for taking the time to answer our question's Adam.

[dadsvtechonda]

i was wondering if you could help me with the protoype setup

[Reggie L]

shoot me a pm when you get the chance..

[Ryno 67]

What is best maitenance or remedy for doing this. inside gears flat one done this twice. Ihave been running grease but do i need to pack it completely full or? Center truggy with stock setup 4 15springs

[trevor burright]

adam how do i get more milege on the dynamite platnum .21, at the labor day race at revalations i was getting 5 min run times how do i change that

[TrU Integra]

What is best maitenance or remedy for doing this. inside gears flat one done this twice. Ihave been running grease but do i need to pack it completely full or? Center truggy with stock setup 4 15springs



I have found you need to keep the diff's packed with grease and check the condition of the grease every gallon or sooner...when the grease thins out it gets slung to the outside of the case and leave's the spyder's dry and that is possibly the reason they are failing.

adam should chime in and give you a 100% answer tho...im just saying what ive found.

[Tyler mcwilliams]

hey adam
i have a 1.0 and my throttle servos go out but the epa's are set right how can i change the ; also what are the best tyres for revrace, california

[chase]

Adam, back in the pre 8ight days did you ever race the muggy? No huge question just never saw anything about it in the racing world

[Reggie L]

yea he won with it up in ohio

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3815236/tm.htm

[david8818]

hello adam,please tell me why digital servos don't seem to hold up on the 8t.the only one that lasts is the analog hitec 985mg.i have tried the hitec digital,can't remember the number,and the ace 1015.neither servo lasted over three race weekends.i am using a futaba 3pm radio,6.0 volt hump packs changed between heats and mains,end points set.the main reason i wish to use digital is to be able to use radio failsafe correctly.thanx for any help.

[smurfracer2]

how do i enter losi
contests

[Adam Drake]

jim- It's just our standard RTR pipe. Not sure if it has a name.

Neobart- Thanks.

Losi_Racer- With the new LOSA4406 servo saver I run it flush on buggy and about 1mm in from flush on truck.

TrU Integra- With Hotec servos you can pretty much lock the servo saver. :)

dadsvtechonda- Not sure what you are talking about?

Ryno 67- The newer diffs come with a shim between the oring and pin to tighten up the gear mess. Just make sure the gears always have a coat of grease. I usually add fresh grease every couple of weeks.

trevor burright- I haven't run the Dynamite .21. What clutch set-up, fuel, carb insert, pipe, header, gearing are you running?

Tyler mcwilliams- What servos are you using? I would use the radio tray from the 8ight 2.0. Losi green Reptiles.

chase- I did race the Muggy, but only a few races.

Reggie L- :)

david8818- I've had great luck with the Hitec 7955 and 7950 servos in the 8ight T 2.0

[Rally Stylz]

Hi Adam.

How often do you recommend changing clutch bearings?
Every hour? or do the generally last longer than that due to the bigger rear bearing?
I'm running the standard clutch set up on my new 2.0B

[david8818]

adam was you using the 7955 for throttle brake?

[Tyler mcwilliams]

i was using hitech 5645 and jr z3650 but i got a ko servo and no issues yet.

Thanks adam, hope to see you at revelations raceway soon

[mikeshields]

Adam I have a 2.0e i put your setup in it but the back get loose in the turn the track i run on is red clay

[bumper08]

adam when is it good to switch out the stock front hing pin plate and go to the alum adjustable one and can you explane what the different settings do

[Adam Drake]

Rally Stylz- I check and clean the bearing after every day at the track. I replace them after 2-3 day of running.

david8818- Hitec 7955 for both throttle and brake in truck and 7965 for both in buggy. I'm now switching to the 7950 for truck and the 7940 for buggy.

mikeshields- Try moving the rear hubs forward 1 or 2 spacers and going to a smartdiff in the center or 5,000 diff fluid in the standard center diff.

bumper08- The adjustable pivots are a great tuning option. Running more kick will increase weight transfer. More steering entering the turn and less on power steering. Less kick will have smoother off power steering and more on power steering.

[mikeshields]

mikeshields- Try moving the rear hubs forward 1 or 2 spacers and going to a smartdiff in the center or 5,000 diff fluid in the standard center diff.
I do have one spacer in front of the hub and the smartdif in the center and 2 spring in it is there something else to try
thanks for help :D

[TrU Integra]

david8818- Hitec 7955 for both throttle and brake in truck and 7965 for both in buggy. I'm now switching to the 7950 for truck and the 7940 for buggy.





So adam you run Strictly Hitec for servo's now ?

[Adam Drake]

mikeshields- What tires are you running and what are the track conditions? You may want to try more rear toe-in.

TrU Integra- Yes, I run Hitec servos and Airtronics radio.

[mikeshields]

The tires are city block , caliber and more in soft . the track is red clay hard some sand on top.do they make a 3.5 toe plat

[Tyler mcwilliams]

hey adam who do you make shocks with full rebound

[david8818]

thank you for the info adam.good luck.

[Akhor]

When setting droop how far can you vary from the stock setup, and under what conditions would you change them?

[Adam Drake]

mikeshields- Yes, it comes on the 8ight T 2.0.

Tyler mcwilliams- The less you compress the shock before putting the bladder on the more rebound you will have.

david8818- No problem, thanks!

Akhor- I always run 95mm in the front of buggy. I do change it in the rear for different conditions. I usually run between 105.5 and 106.5. If you need more turn-in, run more rear droop.

[Jube]

Adam,

Do you run modded shock caps on your shocks? Could you explain as to why, or why not?
Thanks

[Rally Stylz]

In your set ups when you say 3/4 rebound. does that mean u push the shock shaft 3 quarters of the way in or quarter?
how does adding rebound affect handeling?
And do you build your shocks as per the manual or a different way?

Cheers Adam your a great help.

[MightyMouse_132]

what is the best servo's to get for raceing my losi 8ight 2.0

[losini]

the rear end of the 2.0 buggy goes balistic in the ruts if i hit a slight bump it becomes realy unstable and twitchy almost goin end over sometimes and want to jump about, the track is rutty really rutty almost like the surface of the moon the buggy just does not glide over the ruts the way i would like its like a bucking bronco and wants to kick up like crazy im running 25 in the rear 56 pistons with every other hole drilled to 55 silver springs all round and the normal droop, any suggestions adam

[FCardeira]

Hello Drake

I'm having many problems on throttle servos, at the first time I thought that was because of the radio (spektrum dx3r), I have now used Multiplex, Sanwa, Futaba and Hitec servos and i have alqays problems but don't know why, there's people who says that is because of the chassis' flexibility, do you know if it's true? In 7 races I have broken 4 servos in throttle, I think this is not normal...is there any trick for this? Will be he position of the carburator??? I would like to know....I think that Losi has a resolution for this problem...

Thanks
Regards

[dave henry]

did you follow the throttle linkage addendum setup exactly? if not give it a try, it should help

http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/LOS_Throttle_Brake_Linkage.pdf

pay extra special attention to make sure at full throttle you can still pull the throttle link open another couple of mm's, also that at full brake the tray doesn't flex much and the throttle spring is not fully collapsed and you can also still pull the throttle linkage a few mm's

[losiracer78]

Adam you have a pm

[mikeshields]

Adam what do you do no a rough track that is hard packed and dusty
shock oil
diff oil
ride hight

[dave henry]

Adam what do you do no a rough track that is hard packed and dusty


he drives faster!

[losiracer]

adam

i just did the turbo head conversion and the re11 pipe on the 8ight 2.0 buggy rtr. now the car wont fire off unless i hold it at half throttel or more. where would you start looking if you had this problem....
thanks for any help you may give.

[losiracer]

nevermind i found the problem when i pulled the head off it turned the piston sleave about 1/4 of inch. put it back and fired right up....

[david8818]

hey adam i have a question about degrees of toe on the front end(buggy or truggy).when it says 3 degrees,is that total or pre side?i know when you look at the rear toe using a chamber gage it is pre side.is it the same for the front?thanks for the info.

[Losi_Racer]

Adam, nice win at the shootout

[Jube]

Adam,

Do you run modded shock caps on your shocks? Could you explain as to why, or why not?
Thanks

Adam thanks for the explanation Saturday night. Nice wins also!

[killah]

Hey adam great win at the shootout! I was wondering are you using the new rear shock tower on the truggy and if so what is the difference between the new and the stock:cool:

[MartinS]

I have a little problem, Can some tell me how to determine what problems does the car have, like: does it understeer or oversteer and other problems?

[Mugenator]

Hey Adam, (or anybody else) I am running your standard set-up on my 8ight T 1.50 (1.0 with 2.0 chassis and parts) and like it, I broke a front hinge pin brace cover and replaced it with the adjustable hinge pin holder set. I was just wondering now that I can adjust it how much I should? I race on a fairly open, bumpy track that is 90% hard packed with just 3 tight turns and the rest are fast, open turns. I would say run a lot of kick-up like I do on my MBX6 buggy but don't really know how the Losi likes kick-up. So what do you think?
TIA Joe

[Tarimon]

Hi Adam,

In the nearly future i will run an indoor race on a very high-grip track and I want to try out the hint with the 8-hole piston in front of my 8B 2.0. The problem for me, cause I live in germany, is, which diameter has a #54, #55 and #56 drill-bit? Could you tell me a diameter in inches or even in Millemeters? I suppose it could be 1.2 to 1.4 Millemeters, but I dont know exactly...

Thanx for help... ;)

[Gergely]

Hello Tarimon,

I am not Adam but hope this helps:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drill_bit_sizes

gauge inches mm
56 0.046 1.181
55 0.052 1.321
54 0.055 1.397

Gergely

[Adam Drake]

Jube- Yes, I run the modified shock caps. The shocks stay more consistent when there is a drastic change in temperature.

Rally Stylz- Rebounf is the amount the shaft comes out after pushing it all the way in. More rebound has more grip.

Mighty Mouse- I use Hitec 7940’s for both steering and throttle.

Losini- Try my complete set-up from Thunder Alley. www.losi.com

FCardeira- It’s not because of the chassis flex. It could be that you are runnig too much carb angle the the carb is binding when everything gets hot. Would you be able to email me pics of your linkage set-up?
adrake@horizonhobby.com

mikeshields- The only change I made to my standard set-up for the Silver State was a Smartdiff and a little more rebound.

Losiracer- Sounds good.

David8818- Per side.

Losi Racer- Thanks!

Jube- No problem. Thanks!

Killah- Thanks. Yes, I run the new tower on truck. It has a new shock mounting location. One more hole out on the tower.

Mugenator- I usually run all 0’s in the front. More kick will have more off-power steering and less kick will have more on-power steering.

Tarimon- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drill_bit_sizes

gauge inches mm
56 0.046 1.181
55 0.052 1.321
54 0.055 1.397

Gergely- Thanks!

[Losi_Racer]

Adam.

When i set up buggy rebound i have no issues. Even when i set up the truggy front i have no issues but i know the truggy front is the buggy rear, What i do have an issue with is when i set my droop for my rear on truggy i never can get more then 75%. If i try anymore it binds at the top of the stroke. Any ideas?

[65ck]

Hi Adam, what are the modified shock caps. is there a part number. run on high grip astro lots of grip roll, any help thanks

[ggoosen]

Hi Adam

i bought the adjustebale plates for my losi 8-t. i have set the front to 1deg

and the rear to 3 deg..

do you have any setup sheets for these.

we ride on a medium tracking hard sand, pretty technical course.

thanks

[slow]

Hello Adam,

When using the new 12 degree caster blocks do I need to add washers under the ball link on the steering knuckle? Or is change in the bump steer negligible?

[dnebout]

Hi Adam,

Having a small tuning issue. I have a stock 2.0 Truggywith the 454, running 30% with an MC9 plug. I have about 3/4 gallon of fuel through now.

I'm new to driving around a track and our local track has quite a few 180 degree turns back to back within 15 to 20 feet of each other. I like to drive somewhat slow in these areas at about 1/2 throttle. My problem is that the throttle response at 1/2 throttle is not crisp and seems to be running loading up on fuel.

My needles are set at about as perfect as I can get them. My current temps are below 220 degrees. Leaning out the HSN 1 or 2 hours doesn't work because, the engine RPMs at a stop are high for awhile and drop down telling me that I'm too lean. Then I tried leaning out the LSN 1 hour, but the pinch test tells me that it is too lean. Do you have any idea as to how I could get a crisper mid range?

Maybe a pipe, different Glow plug or a Turbo Head. Thanks in advance for your thoughts on the matter.

[hdcruzer]

Hi Adam, I need some help with my 454. I and about 7 other guys at the local track can not get this thing to tune..... It will fire right up run good drive it around a couple laps runs good pull it over and if you dont keep on the throttle it will idl fast for about 10 secs drop to lower idle and then you go to get on the gas to take off and it dies. Weve tried evry adjustment you can try and the same thing every time. Please help..... Thanks Rick

[tmaxx]

are losi planning an update for xxxcr soon

[losiracer78]

It has come to our attention some racers are making the mistake of setting the idle speed opening to wide [high idle] and setting the bottom end too rich! This will give a false normal idle speed even though the speed is set to high because it “loads up” the engine with excess fuel causing the idle to be lower than set!


The end result is a very unstable idling engine that surges and may cut out as full throttle is applied because the over rich bottom end can disguise a too lean TOP end setting!!!



Let’s address this a little more in depth.


Idle speed opining set too wide:
this might help you out give it a read

It is possible to set the idle screw adjustment in to far but yet the idle speed is not high. Even though the air regulation [carb barrel or slide] may be set to a position that would normally equal a vary fast idle, the idle is low because the low speed mixture adjustment is set so rich that the engine loads up with excess fuel and the engine goes into what’s commonly called a four cycle idle.


One tell tail sign of this is if after reving up the completely warmed up engine it tends to idle fast for a few seconds then drops to lower idle speed. If you start leaning the bottom end a little at a time [then repeat the reving up and idle test] and it takes longer before the idle drops your going in the right direction.


Eventually as you keep leaning the bottom the idle will stay too high, now it is time to lower the idle to were it belongs by re adjusting the idle screw!

[Robert "Wick" Wickham]

It has come to our attention some racers are making the mistake of setting the idle speed opening to wide [high idle] and setting the bottom end too rich! This will give a false normal idle speed even though the speed is set to high because it “loads up” the engine with excess fuel causing the idle to be lower than set!


The end result is a very unstable idling engine that surges and may cut out as full throttle is applied because the over rich bottom end can disguise a too lean TOP end setting!!!



Let’s address this a little more in depth.


Idle speed opining set too wide:
this might help you out give it a read

It is possible to set the idle screw adjustment in to far but yet the idle speed is not high. Even though the air regulation [carb barrel or slide] may be set to a position that would normally equal a vary fast idle, the idle is low because the low speed mixture adjustment is set so rich that the engine loads up with excess fuel and the engine goes into what’s commonly called a four cycle idle.


One tell tail sign of this is if after reving up the completely warmed up engine it tends to idle fast for a few seconds then drops to lower idle speed. If you start leaning the bottom end a little at a time [then repeat the reving up and idle test] and it takes longer before the idle drops your going in the right direction.


Eventually as you keep leaning the bottom the idle will stay too high, now it is time to lower the idle to were it belongs by re adjusting the idle screw!

Solid Advise!!!! :D

[hdcruzer]

Losi Racer, Ive done that and still have problems . Thanks though. My last thought was an air leak checked that and didnt have any that you can check. My guess is the front motor bearing is trash and leaking air from there. Just seems thre rtrs have motor problems and servo problems............ Maybe somthing Losi can do in the future to keep racers buying.

[unsp0ken]

adam, which setup did you use on your buggy during your last visit to hotrod hobbies?

[dnebout]

Hi Adam, I need some help with my 454. I and about 7 other guys at the local track can not get this thing to tune..... It will fire right up run good drive it around a couple laps runs good pull it over and if you dont keep on the throttle it will idl fast for about 10 secs drop to lower idle and then you go to get on the gas to take off and it dies. Weve tried evry adjustment you can try and the same thing every time. Please help..... Thanks Rick

Rick,
I'm going to try a medium to cool plug this weekend at the track (MC8). Get a couple and let's compare notes. I honestly have no idea if it will work for your problem, but I'm going to see if it takes care of mine. I noticed that the plug that came stock with the RTR was a Dynamite that crossed referenced to an MC8. I also know that my truggy ran better with that Dynamite plug. We've been buying the MC9s at the track, so I'm just going to try a hotter plug to see if it takes care of my mid-range motor blubbering. I talked to a guy in SoCal that says he runs a MC8.

If that doesn't do it, I'll go Turbo Head. If the Head doesn't fix my problem I'll try an RE11 pipe. TX Dave.

[RJNicholson]

It has come to our attention some racers are making the mistake of setting the idle speed opening to wide [high idle] and setting the bottom end too rich! This will give a false normal idle speed even though the speed is set to high because it “loads up” the engine with excess fuel causing the idle to be lower than set!


The end result is a very unstable idling engine that surges and may cut out as full throttle is applied because the over rich bottom end can disguise a too lean TOP end setting!!!



Let’s address this a little more in depth.


Idle speed opining set too wide:
this might help you out give it a read

It is possible to set the idle screw adjustment in to far but yet the idle speed is not high. Even though the air regulation [carb barrel or slide] may be set to a position that would normally equal a vary fast idle, the idle is low because the low speed mixture adjustment is set so rich that the engine loads up with excess fuel and the engine goes into what’s commonly called a four cycle idle.


One tell tail sign of this is if after reving up the completely warmed up engine it tends to idle fast for a few seconds then drops to lower idle speed. If you start leaning the bottom end a little at a time [then repeat the reving up and idle test] and it takes longer before the idle drops your going in the right direction.


Eventually as you keep leaning the bottom the idle will stay too high, now it is time to lower the idle to were it belongs by re adjusting the idle screw!

+1 on this but there is way more to this guide that you left out. Ron Paris was the man when it came to Nitro Engines.

This is the first Paragragh from his Tuning Bible. Google Ron Paris and you will find the entire guide in PDF format. Great guide to carry around in the pit bag.

[gijoe64]

Hey Adam what do you do to take out any slop out the suspention of the 2.0 buggy? I am a typical on-road racer and as you know we can stand slop of any kind in our cars:). I am having some wheel slop movement and I would like to know if I should leave it or should I shim it out?

Thanks Ray

[chadmillikan]

that whole pdf from ron paris is in the nitro off road forum um rctech.net

[Adam Drake]

Losi_Racer- I usually never run more than 50% rebound on the rear of the truck. You can get about 75%, but anymore than that and the shock won’t bottom out.

65ck- I use the std. shock caps, but drill a small hole to vent the cap (#58). I then use foam to support the bladder. I run this all the time on buggy.

Ggoosen- On the 8ight T I ran 0’s in the front and 3 degrees of anti squat. There are set-ups on the Losi website.

Slow- If you run the stock kick you need to add a washer to the spindle.

Dnebout- I would try running a leaner low speed needle setting and then lower the idle. You could also try a hotter glow plug.

Hdcruzer- It sounds like the LSN is too rich and the idle is too high. I will try and get 454 carb settings from one of our team guys.

Tmaxx- We are always working on new products, but I’m not involved with the electric cars much.

unsp0ken- I ran my set-up from the Nationals, but with Green Reptiles.

gijoe64- I just leave the slop. If everything is shimmed perfect and then gets dirty, things will start to bind.

[losidave8]

hi adam just wondering if you had a set up for the 8T 2.0 on astro? currently running factory set up.

cheers:D

[Rally Stylz]

Hi Adam.

This shock cap modification. What does it do?

[Big Puddin]

Adam I noticed you still run fm is there a reason why you dont run 2.4?

[TrU Integra]

Hey Adam

Im curious to know your thought's on the 1/10 8ight losi just released......did you feel it was a true 1/10 truggy.....were there any durability issues that you guys discovered through testing ? Also servo's....are they proprietary to the truck or will other mfg's have servo's that will fit ?

Thx for your time Adam :)

[RacerScott]

Hi Adam, I would like to get your thoughts on this:

I have been using 100% shock rebound front/rear for outdoor tracks this summer and it has worked great. Now that winter is comming I race indoor on high bite clay. Somtimes if the track is ran dry during the day it can get a little slick for the main but still more traction than the typical outdoor surface. Would running 50% rebound or even less than that be better for high bite smooth clay?

[AnthonyF]

They build there shocks with less rebound for high bite tracks. this removes some of the edginess from the car and is noticeable.

[Adam Drake]

losidave8- I emailed Darren Bloomfield to get his asto set-up. I will fill out a sheet or post it here as soon as I get it.

Rally Stylz- It makes the shocks more consistent when the temperate changes drastically.

Big Puddin- I guess I'm just old school. I plan on doing some 2.4 testing when the season slows down.

TrU Integra- Other servos will fit. You can use the same servos from your 1/8th if you wish. The truck is a lot of fun and very durable.

RacerScott- When the grip is very high you should run less rebound. Too much rebound on a high grip track will make the buggy difficult to drive.

[JAMMINKRAZY]

Yes, I run the new tower on truck. It has a new shock mounting location. One more hole out on the tower.


Adam, Any info on if/when the new tower will become available to the public? Thanks!

[TrU Integra]

TrU Integra- Other servos will fit. You can use the same servos from your 1/8th if you wish. The truck is a lot of fun and very durable.




That's good news.:)

[losidave8]

cheers adam hear from you soon.

thanks

[Adam Drake]

losidave8- I talked to Darren and he has been running my std. truck set-up for asto, but will do more testing. I would start with my set-up and try 10,000 front diff, 2.5 sway bars, and maybe a little less rear toe-in.

JAMMINKRAZY- I don't have a date, but it should be within the next 4-6 weeks.

[JAMMINKRAZY]

losidave8- I talked to Darren and he has been running my std. truck set-up for asto, but will do more testing. I would start with my set-up and try 10,000 front diff, 2.5 sway bars, and maybe a little less rear toe-in.

JAMMINKRAZY- I don't have a date, but it should be within the next 4-6 weeks.

Thanks a lot Adam!

[axial28rr]

hey Adam you should talk to losi about a Drake edition 8ight2.0/8ight-T2.0 that comes with a nova and all upgrades :cool:
and do you have a youtube account ?

[MitchellBurkey]

hey Adam you should talk to losi about a Drake edition 8ight2.0/8ight-T2.0 that comes with a nova and all upgrades :cool:
and do you have a youtube account ?

that would be nice

but I think they would do it with Truhe:rolleyes:

[losidave8]

ok adam cheers for that. will try it and see how it goes. as our season hasnt finished it will be a few weeks before i get the chance to get out.

[david8818]

hi adam.what kind of bearings do you use?

[u2fast]

I read in another forum that you run your front sway bar loose and your rear one snug.
What does running them loose or tight change. Thanks

[ChrisL]

Hey Adam,

What sort of foam do you run in your shocks when you do the shock mod? Any chance of a photo or some dimensions.

Thanks

[xxxtruck]

adam do you run smart diff in truggy? front , center, rear ?

[Adam Drake]

david8818- Losi bearing.

u2fast- Running the front bar a little loose will have more steering off power.

ChrisL- I use a molded tire insert that is 7mm tall.

xxxtruck- I usually run all three std. diffs in truck. If I need more steering or if the track is very low bite I will run the smartdiff in the center.

[Reggie L]

what do yo mean by loose? and snug ezactly??

[Adam Drake]

Reggie L- You always want the sway bars moving free. The rear bar I run as tight as possible without anything binding. The front bar I back off 1/2 to 1 turn depending on the track conditions.

[Audiobahnaholic]

Hey Adam I just watched your video on tuning the Novarossi engines. I had a few questions for you. I run the Losi 350 in my 8ight buggy and I need more runtime. I currently get 7:30-8 minutes from a tank. I am running your clutch setup but I am running the blue aluminum flywheel instead of black steel. What difference does this make? Should I switch to a different spring to compensate? Another thing is I have the turbo head on my 350 running 97t O'Donnell plugs with the RE11 pipe and I was just wondering any tips you could give me on getting more runtime out of this engine. I am wanting atleast 10 minutes. I was thinking I'd ask you before I went ahead and ditched it to the pit box as a spare and bought a Plus 4. Are there any carb restrictors that will fit the Losi carb? If so I think that will help my runtime drastically.

[Reggie L]

Reggie L- You always want the sway bars moving free. The rear bar I run as tight as possible without anything binding. The front bar I back off 1/2 to 1 turn depending on the track conditions.

got-cha:cool:

[Adam Drake]

Audiobahnaholic- The Steel flywheel will have smoother power delivery and work better on rough tracks. The Losi 350 engine has good power, but the runtime isn't going to be that of a Plus 4. Making sure your drivetrain is free is a good plaace to start. Also try running a 14 tooth clutch bell with the 350.

[Audiobahnaholic]

Audiobahnaholic- The Steel flywheel will have smoother power delivery and work better on rough tracks. The Losi 350 engine has good power, but the runtime isn't going to be that of a Plus 4. Making sure your drivetrain is free is a good plaace to start. Also try running a 14 tooth clutch bell with the 350.

So the flywheel won't help my runtime? One thing I was thinking about trying is a Nova Exhaust gas cooler. Will that help much or be a waste of money? I currently run a 13 tooth clutch bell what will going to a 14 do? I can say that most guys complain of low end power and I have more than I need. As far as the drivetrain it's free as you can get I believe. One thing I have a question about is ever since I got the buggy it's had a whine sort of sound, like a turbo spooling but nothing is bound up and I don't know what causes it. My brakes don't drag and everything spins freely as it should what would cause this whine?

[Losi_Racer]

hey bud i got a quick question for ya.

right now im running the nova +4(9853/41021 pipe set) w/ 2 comp shoes and 2 alum, 2 green and 2 gold springs in buggy and truggy

in truggy i am happy with it. It buggy i think it a little to much bottom. Im trying to learn throttle control and i have gotten better coming out of corners but i still would like a little less bottom.


will running 4 green springs or 2 green 2 black work? it will it be to much slipping. I also heard the 9901 has a little less bottom.

any ideas? or should i just work harder on throttle control and forget trying to tame it down a little

[Gury Lebron]

Hi Adam,

Nice racing at the RC PRO finals at Alvarado, how would you describe the track last day.
I was wondering if you got the Finals setup you can share ,emai incase orlebron@hotmail.com.

Good luck on your next race.

[l3asher]

What can I do to get rid of the off power push? Seems like the rear end stays planted in the curves. I'm running the stock set up.

[samtaylor8b1.0]

hi adam. i have a losi 8b 1.0 and im replacing the rear diff case and inserts which look ok and the slightly worn pinion.
there was a loud clicking noise coming from the rear diff case when i breaked. my brakes were strong for a long time and i think that may of caused the problem?

i think the rear diff needs shimming somehow to stop this from happening again?
i have a pack of the gearbox shims (4452) which fit nicely over the flanged bearing and a pack of gearbox shims (3501) which are smaller.
im not sure where they go and how to check for play in the places where the 2 different shims go.

could you help?

cheers adam from sam in england

[Adam Drake]

Audiobahnaholic- The flywheel won't make much of a difference with runtime, but the power will be smoother and have more traction. The Nova Rossi exhaust cooler will help with runtime. The 14 tooth bell should also help with runtime. The noise could be that the rear ring and pinion is shimmed too tight.

Losi_Racer- Try two black springs on the plastic shoes and two green springs on the alum. shoes. Also try a steel flywheel.

Gury Lebron- The track was a lot of fun, but very rough for the mains. I ran my standard set-ups. Billy went to silver rear spring, #3 shock mounting location on the rear tower and raised his inner rear camber link on buggy for the main and said it was awesome until he had problems.

l3asher- Try running more toe-out in the front, loosen the the front sway bar or run a thinner front bar.

samtaylor8b1.0- The shims are for the 8ight 2.0 gearbox, but can be used if you 8ight gearbox and inserts are worn. The shims go on the bearing before you put the insert over the bearing.

[Adam Drake]

Check it out:

www.shipyourrc.com

[readyrollers]

Thanks Adam that is a cool site.

[AnthonyF]

hey adam. Do the VTR proline tires fit the losi wheels.

[Mcurcio]

Adam, from and many thanks, I put a Novarossi Toro Nero my 8ight-t. with that tuned pipes and manifold by Novarossi recommend.
Excuse my English.

Mcurcio
Argentina

[Adam Drake]

AnthonyF- The VTR tires only fit VTR wheels.

Mcurcio- I run the 41021 header and 9901 pipe with the Toro Nero.

[Mcurcio]

thanks Adam

[323 Racin]

Adam I am a 49 year old rc addict. I was wondering you never see older racers that are factory sponsored is their a reason or do rc companies just look for young guns. Before i got started in rc racing i fished semi-pro and sponsorship was much easyer to come by.I was just wondering?

[AnthonyF]

Adam are you guys narrowing the other tires like the lrps or jconcepts tires for truggy

Thanks

[losidave8]

hello adam just wondering if you got darrens astro set up for the 8t 2.0?

thanks:D

[Adam Drake]

323 Racin- I see sponsored drivers of all ages, but it's more common to see younger sponsored drivers.

AnthonyF- I usually run my truck tires std. width.

[rock]

im going to buy a 2.0 truggy i want to change the moto to the lrp .30 is it worth it or is the 454 enough power

[bongo]

Hello Adam ,

I have a losi eight one ,

is it ok for the Nitromania in Belgium ? efra rules ?

I'm exciting to meet you there !

[Adam Drake]

rock- The Losi 454 will have enough power.

bongo- Yes. See you soon!

[quig]

Adam,

Are we to expect any new updates to the Losi 2.0?

With the Worlds coming up, you are likely to be testing mutiple new items for the Losi, are there any you can tell us about and when should we see them in the shops.

Richard.

[quig]

LosiDave8,

Check out Losi's setup site, or click on the following....

http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/DrakeASTRO2.pdf

Hope this helps you for the new track.

Richard.

[penguineman]

Adam how many different running changes or flywheels did Losi make to the 8 & 8T flywheel? I have 3 flywheels one that came with my 8/1.0 & picked up 2 more from a guy & the 2 are different the knurling where it rides on the starter box is wider & threre is a small shallow lip around the flywheel where the clutch shoes are other than that they look the same. the reason I ask is I'm trying to get my back up engines all equiped & ready to goin case I need one of them. Thanks

[Adam Drake]

quig- We are always working to improve our products. Not sure if we will have anything new for the Worlds.

penguineman- We have had two versions of the alum. flywheel for the 8ight. The wider flywheel is the new version.

[penguineman]

Thanks for the info are they the same for the truggy & buggy? I haven't looked at the parts breakdown for them as I haven't purchased a truggy yet but plan to in the very near future.

[323 Racin]

Adam do you know if Losi is planning a newer verison of the 8b and 8t in 2010 ? Or just upgrades to the prefect 2.0. The reason i ask is i need to purchase a new 8B and i would wait if their's something in the works. But i can't see how you guys can make them much better unless it drives itself!!

[chadmillikan]

Adam do you know if Losi is planning a newer verison of the 8b and 8t in 2010 ? Or just upgrades to the prefect 2.0. The reason i ask is i need to purchase a new 8B and i would wait if their's something in the works. But i can't see how you guys can make them much better unless it drives itself!!
Somebody asked that same question in que #156, and adam answered in que #159

[quig]

Adam,

Darren Bloomfield visited the PaddyPiston Race this year and tried a simple shim for under the rear diff, do you know of this and if so explain the reason for it?

It was a simple shim of lexan.

Thanks.

[nitrojunkie]

adam, i noticed from your setup sheets that you like the novarossi plus 4 and the grp motors... which one do you prefer overall for a offroad course truggy setup..?

[Adam Drake]

penguineman- They are the same. It was just a running change in the part.

323 Racin- We have no plans for a new buggy or truggy in 2010.

quig- I haven't tested this, but Darren says it gives the buggy more rear grip.

nitrojunkie- Nova Rossi Plus 4.

[Adam Drake]

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!

[losi8ight832]

hey adam,what is a good setup or what setup did you use for the nitrocross at the nitro pit?

[Adam Drake]

losi8ight832- Here's what I ran at Nitrocross, but with Green Eclipse front and rear. http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/DrakeROARFuelNats.pdf

[chadmillikan]

Hi Adam, I know that you mainly run Losi Tires, And Ronda uses Pro-Line Tires. What have run and held up the best at Revelation for truggy, what tire model and what compound, and insert. Thank you. Also good job at the roar electric nats. What happened in A3 buggy

[Adam Drake]

chadmillikan- Thanks! Something inside my battery broke in A3 of buggy. I ran Green Losi Eclipse's with stock inserts for buggy and Super Soft Gridirons for truck. Ronda likes holeshots and calibers for Revelation.

[l3asher]

Adam, are any of the team drivers running the shock mod on truggy?

[frankhodits]

losi8ight832- Here's what I ran at Nitrocross, but with Green Eclipse front and rear. http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/DrakeROARFuelNats.pdf
Why did you run 3/4 rebound in the front and 1/2 in the back?

[quig]

Adam,

What tyre would you recommend for an indoor race like Neo2010 at Harper Adams?

What Losi tyre and compound would you select?

Thanks,

Richard.

[Adam Drake]

l3asher- Most of the guys are running the shock mod for both buggy and truck.

frankhodits- Running a little more rebound in the front helps support the front of the buggy. It also makes the steering a little smoother.

quig- Losi green Eclipse or Kingpin.

[AnthonyF]

Hey Adam are you and mike going to make the trip up to CRCRC this year.

[gddevey1012]

Hi adam

I was just wondering if you had any plans to attend the Neo invitational in 2010 as i would love to see yourself at a major UK event such as this.

Cheers
Gareth

[ChrisL]

Hey Adam,

I note the SS Gridirons on the truggy - was this with the stock AKA foams? No setup changes required?

[Adam Drake]

AnthonyF- Not sure about CRCRC this year. Mike and I are going to Belgium in Jan.

gddevey1012- I'm still working on my 2010 race schedule, but I would love to attend the 2010 Neo.

ChrisL- Yes, I ran the stock foam with no set-up changes.

[JBURCH]

l3asher- Most of the guys are running the shock mod for both buggy and truck.

frankhodits- Running a little more rebound in the front helps support the front of the buggy. It also makes the steering a little smoother.

quig- Losi green Eclipse or Kingpin.

When you say shock mod is that the mod with the drill hole thru the cap or the redrilled piston holes or both mods.

[quig]

Hi Adam,

Is there much of a difference between the Kingpin and the Reptile Losi tyres?

Richard.

[Adam Drake]

JBURCH- The shock mod is the hole in the shock cap with the foam behind the bladder.

quig- The Kingpin is a much small pin and great for indoor tracks.

[Team_losi_offroad_fan]

I dont know if any threads are on that but i would like to know what size tire i can put on the 1/10 desert truck,would it be 2.2 or only 320.

[keyesgood]

HI

Adam ,


can you tell me what differents putting the alum rear hubs on the buggy would do , over the kit hubs ,



mk,


oz

[penguineman]

Adam whats a good starting setup for a 8T I was on the website trying to look at it & there is a problem with the page with the std setup on it. Thanks

[g26er]

Adam whats a good starting setup for a 8T I was on the website trying to look at it & there is a problem with the page with the std setup on it. Thanks

I was having trouble too looking at the PDF setup sheets from Losi's site. Try going to Horizon's site to get 'em. Worked for me.

Buggy
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=LOSA0804

Truggy
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=LOSA0805

click on recommended setups on the right.

[penguineman]

Thanks for the info but I have the 1.0 buggy & truggy not the 2.0

[chadmillikan]

Thanks for the info but I have the 1.0 buggy & truggy not the 2.0
here are all the set ups for the 1,0 truggy. its on the losi page under support, in the manuals and parts explosin.
http://www.losi.com/Products/Support.aspx?ProdId=LOSA0802

and here is the set ups for the buggy
http://www.losi.com/Products/Support.aspx?ProdId=LOSA0801

[chadmillikan]

Hey Adam , Good Job At Toys for Tots. I see on Neo-Buggy You Were using a DX3R, hows that going. I was wondering, you have been advertising Spektrum for a while but you have been using Airtrinics amd using FM reciever. What of Spektrum were you using. Is that a costom drop for the steering wheel to give you more a feel that you are use to with the M11

[losidave8]

hello adam just wondering if you could put darrens astro set up for the 8T 2.0 on the set up section

thanks dave

[penguineman]

chadmillikan - Thanks yes those are the ones I had found go in & click on Adams east to drive setup for truggy I think it is & you can see what I'm talking about. looks like some how someone layed or scanned a upside down setup sheet over the origonal one. kinda hard to read or let alone copy & print off. Thanks fo rthe help though.

[zekebracing]

Hey Adam, my name is Zeke Ballinger, I am switching to Novarossi as Fusion has picked me up for 2010


in buggy im running 21+4c, 9901 and the 42021 manifold (i think thats the part number for the manifold.)

in truggy i picked the fms, 9853 pipe same manifold as buggy

a couple of quick questions, im in the springs, my home track is where they are holding gas nats next year, its at 5500 feet in elevation, im going to run 30% byrons, do i need to adress head shimming, also colorado has very low hummidity, would you stick with a medium plug or go with the hotter plug

have you experienced a huge change in tune based on elevation ie. a couple hours on top or bottom or a complete re tune.

thanks Adam

Zeke ''stubs'' ballinger

[DSKTsUnAmI]

You should come out to the jconcepts clash in tampa this week.. They need some Losi rep out there... mayfield,cavalieri and tebo will be there...

[IAN]

I left bout 2 tanks worth nitro fuel out in the cold overnite, and now its yellow. Is it still good to use?

[8IGHT-T 2.0 FAN]

Hi Adam,
My name is Paul, I was wondering what your opinion would be on gearing for the Nova Plus 28 7T on my 8IGHT-T 2.0. I am running the standard 13/50 combination and feel that it is not quiet reaching it's full potential with this combinatio. Thanks.

[TrU Integra]

I left bout 2 tanks worth nitro fuel out in the cold overnite, and now its yellow. Is it still good to use?



Im gonna jump the Gun on Adam here In case he doesn't see you question immediately and say NO Do not use that fuel...dump it out and use fresh.

you Can Store a tank of fuel overnight at room temp and it'll still be fine but when it gets cold it gets jelly and can gum up the carb and cause bigger issues.

this also applies to the motor....if you leave fuel in the motor it will gum up and cause corrosion(pending what fuel you run) some are worse then others...but a good tip at the end of each day of running is to run the motor till there's no more fuel in it to ensure you wont have any issues.

[Adam Drake]

Team Losi Off Road Fan- You can use 2.2 or 320 series tires and wheels for the 1/10th Desert Truck.

Keyesgood- The Alum. rear hubs have the same geometry, but more durable.

Chadmillikan- Thanks, the DX3R has been great. Yes, it’s a custom drop-down I had made.

Losidave8- Darren is running my standard set-up on the 8ight T 2.0 for Astro.

Penguinemen- http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/8IGHTTDrakeStd08.pdf

[l3asher]

Any word on the new shock tower? Any plans to market the drop down wheel?

[Adam Drake]

l3asher- Horizon should have them instock near the end of December. Don't know about the drop down.

[Fischer]

Hi Adam

Where can i get the Team Losi logo in high kvality, so i can get someone to make a shirt for me with the Logo on..

Oliver// (see you in Belgium)

[Neobart]

You can get Losi apparel at www.the-border.com, that's where I got mine. :cool: hmmm come to think, it is getting a bit raggedy to look at. :p

[Fischer]

The problem is iam not "big" :D so i need some in small. And then i will make the shirt by myself i just need the Logo:)

[JBURCH]

Adam,
Was just wondering if is best to have both the front and rear adjustable braces for the hinge pins. Or is the rear the most adjusted. Just wondering.

[AutieBender]

Hi Adam,

I have a Plus 4 with a 9901 pipe with a JP3 header and Nitrotane fuel.
I was curious how you bench tune your low speed needle. Do you do the pinch test, count how long the idle drops etc. ? Also do you do the high or low needle first? So far I have been loving my new plus 4.

Thanks,
Autie

[AutieBender]

Hi Adam,

Another question: Have you ever tried turning your Antenna tube around so it's pointing foward? It would probably be hard to drive because you would be laughing about the antenna:)

[Adam Drake]

Fischer- You would need to get a release from someone in marketing at Losi. I will look into it.

JBURCH- I run the adjustable pivots on the front and rear, they are easy to adjust and stronger.

AutieBender- I set the low speed needle first. Rev the engine to clean it out. Let the engine idle for 8-10 seconds and you should be able to punch the throttle and have smooth power without the engine loading up. Casy and Billy tried getting me to run it like that at the nationals. No more antenna for me. I'm using the DX3R.

[AutieBender]

Ok Thanks Adam!

[Adam Drake]

Have a great weekend!

[chadmillikan]

What kind of turning radius are you getting in your truugy. How do you measure toe with out a set up table.

[yfzracer912]

Hi Adam, I have an 8ight 2.0 buggy and I wanted to know if you used a hinge pin reamer on your a-arms and if so what size do I need? Thanks.

[dave henry]

hi yfz, where are you in ontario?
use a 4mm reamer on the inner of both front and rear arms and a 3.5mm reamer on the rear outer holes,if you don't have them already dynamite makes some nice ones

http://www.dynamiterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=DYN3097
http://www.dynamiterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=DYN3096

[Fischer]

Thanks Adam see you in Belgium :)

[T.Davis46]

Hi Adam..I have an 8ight 1.0 buggy and the shocks seem to stick or not rebound very well. I have rebuilt them with new o-rings and fresh oil, but when I push down on the buggy it seems to stay put, only rebounding a little bit..any help would be great..thanks.:)

[Adam Drake]

chadmillikan- I haven't measured the turning radius. You can push your truck's front tires against the wall and use a camber gauge on the wall. I just eyeball the front toe-out.

yfzracer912- If you use 8ight 1.0 arms the hinge pins are very tight and I use a 4.0mm and 3.5mm reamer, but the 2.0 arms fit perfect.

Fischer- See you soon!

T.Davis46- Are you running the white orings with the spacer that comes on the piston tree or the thin white spacer? Make sure you are using the thin spacer with the white o-rings.

[Fischer]

i have sent you a personal message :)

[Losiboy]

Hey Adam What so you think the best pipe is for a GRP? RE10 or RE11?

[dnebout]

Dan Ross- With the Plus 4 in truck I can run 12:30 to 13:00 min and with the Toro Nero about 11:30 to 12:00.

Axial28rr- I used the forward only transmission, with the gear flipped inside to give the truck more top-end. Stock Losi 427 engine, with JP-3 pipe. Graphite chassis, plastic shocks, sway bars, 17mm wheel hexes, 8ight brake disc, and 8ight wing.

83nji- send me an email to adrake@horizonhobby.com and I will send you my set-up for astro.

Losibob- I can’t make it. I will be on my honeymoon!

Losi Racer- Thanks!

Kysho- Thanks!

Lilphil257- Would you please explain?

Ryan Rockcuffs- Thanks!

To run 12 to 13 minutes with the plus 4, what restrictor do you use?

[sluggoman]

What do you recommend for a home air compressor. I see a Craftsman 3/4 hp, 4 gallon 1.7scfm@90psi. Think it's enough to air clean my 8ight 2.0?

Have any idea how the 8-e would do with a 2S 8000 Max Amps? Would it be enough power to run it? Friend of mine has the the Max Amps and wanted to plug it in, but not sure if there would be a problem with the ESC going back and forth between the 4S and 2S.

[stedy]

Drake! what do i need to do to my losi 8ight 1.0 buggy to bring it to good racing specs, thanks Jon. i know i will need a better engine

[axial28rr]

hey Adam do your run 2.4 or still FM

[HandyRacing]

Adam, I was glad to see you run at the ROAR E-8th Championships...

I think one of our Michigan crew snapped a pic of your truggy:

http://xfc.xanga.com/5d48575537438261202128/m208119220.jpg

You also looked good in the ROAR Pro Truggy, congrats on the win.

(Race video is on the following link)

http://blog.handyracing.com/2009/12/09/roar-electric-18-championships-2009.aspx

What did you think of the ending in the Open Expert Buggy A-Main (check out the vid)?

Perhaps as your schedule allows, maybe come back and race a little back in Michigan just for fun.

[loweredram]

Adam,

I've been having a problem with the front adjustable hinge pin inserts breaking in my 2.0. Have you had this issue and what can I do to fix it. Also was wondering when you run the center SD in the losi 8ight buggy I went through all of your posted setup sheets on the losi site and only found one with the SD.

Thanks

[g26er]

Adam (and anyone else who wants to throw their 2 cents in)

I always told myself that I would never post on any "ask <pro driver name here>" threads as I know you guys are far too busy with other stuff but, here I am :o

I have an 8ight-E 2.0 that began life as a 8ight 2.0 RTR. I converted it to electric and I have the complete "E" kit setup except for 3k in the rear diff instead of 2k and the RTR chassis.

The track I race is a very abrasive and very hard packed clay. Seems sort of a cheap sandy clay. It has a sort of sandy fluff on top. When it's watered the car is dialed and very confidence inspiring. The problem comes when it starts drying out and there is that very thin layer of dried sand on top. The car seems very loose and a bit squirrelly. At this point all my confidence is lost and I baby the trigger as best I can. Tires are AKA City Block Soft.

Would the tuned flex chassis make a big impact in this situation? What should I start with in the setup to help in these loose conditions? Tire recommendations?

Thanks in advance!

[Neobart]

I would lighten up the center diff if it's that loose. We have very loose surfaces on almost all tracks here in Denmark, because of that I have changed my diffs to 5/3/1 F/C/R. The buggy drives like I want it to drive, so it may or may not be something you'd wanna try. I like my cars to drive more on the front wheels, so I'm aware my diff setup is far away from what Adam, Truhe and all the other Losi pros drive.

[Adam Drake]

LosiBoy- RE10.

dnebout- I use a 7mm in truck.

sluggoman- That compressor should work fine. The 8E would be pretty slow with a 2S. I know the speedo will work with 3S, but not sure about 2S. I'm sure you would need to adjust the voltage cut-off.

Stedy- I would get the 2.0 chassis, 2.0 center / rear bone, and 2.0 shock towers.

axial28rr- DX3R (2.4).

HandyRacing- Thanks! Great videos.

Loweredram- We made a running change to the adjustable hinge pin braces to capture the insert. With the older mounts, I would put Shoe Goo over the inserts in cold weather. I only run the center SD when the track is very slick or rough.

G26er- Feel free to ask any questions here. The TFT chassis would help, but first try the following things: more toe-out in the front, Losi molded tire inserts, 5,000 center diff, Black rear shock springs. Let me know if this helps. Also see what tires other fast guys are running.

[l3asher]

Adam, I ordered the new shock tower, where should I mount the shock and camber links to get more forward traction.

[Adam Drake]

l3asher- Start with the inner / lower camber link and outside shock mounting location.

[stedy]

Thanks im gonna find a cheap 2.0 buggy roller. whitch engine should i use im looking for the best im willing to spend 350.00

[stedy]

Adam will my losi clutch fit on the novarossi plus4. what clutch set up do you run as basic thanks



Losi 8ight(need engine)

[Robert "Wick" Wickham]

Adam will my losi clutch fit on the novarossi plus4. what clutch set up do you run as basic thanks



Losi 8ight(need engine)

Yes it will, are you dunning buggy or truggy????:confused:

[stedy]

im runng a 1.0 buggy , im getting 2.0 drive shafts/ 2.0chassisrear bone/shock tower to bring it to 2.0 specs, any advice tips

[dnebout]

LosiBoy- RE10.

dnebout- I use a 7mm in truck.

sluggoman- That compressor should work fine. The 8E would be pretty slow with a 2S. I know the speedo will work with 3S, but not sure about 2S. I'm sure you would need to adjust the voltage cut-off.

Stedy- I would get the 2.0 chassis, 2.0 center / rear bone, and 2.0 shock towers.

axial28rr- DX3R (2.4).

HandyRacing- Thanks! Great videos.

Loweredram- We made a running change to the adjustable hinge pin braces to capture the insert. With the older mounts, I would put Shoe Goo over the inserts in cold weather. I only run the center SD when the track is very slick or rough.

G26er- Feel free to ask any questions here. The TFT chassis would help, but first try the following things: more toe-out in the front, Losi molded tire inserts, 5,000 center diff, Black rear shock springs. Let me know if this helps. Also see what tires other fast guys are running.


Thanks Adam. I'm now running the 7mm insert. It is giving me 12 to 13 minutes as you stated. I've been making our A mains in inter truggy which are 20 minutes. 1 pit once and I'm good. I may try the 7.5 or 8 in order to clear a triple that I can't seem to get enough power for.

What do you think the 8mm restrictor will give me on run time with the Nova plus 4c?

Also, what do you think about the Nova Exhaust gas Cooler? Can I get additional run time with it? Do you have a pic of how to mount it? I saw one once, where they dremeled a piece to make it fit nicely on the tank shroud?

Tx in adavnce!!!

[l3asher]

Are the spindles for the 1.0 and 2.0 the same? Looks like the carriers have diffeant part number but look the same, are they interchangable? I have some old 1.0 parts laying around that I would like to use.

[TrU Integra]

Are the spindles for the 1.0 and 2.0 the same? Looks like the carriers have diffeant part number but look the same, are they interchangable? I have some old 1.0 parts laying around that I would like to use.



spindles are the same....carriers are different...they have an extra hole to adjust the camber on the carrier itself...you need the small alum inserts to plug the opposite hole to run the 2.0 carriers.

[l3asher]

spindles are the same....carriers are different...they have an extra hole to adjust the camber on the carrier itself...you need the small alum inserts to plug the opposite hole to run the 2.0 carriers.

If I use the 1.0 carries will it be the same as the stock 2.0 carriers?

[TrU Integra]

If I use the 1.0 carries will it be the same as the stock 2.0 carriers?



yes minus 1 camber adjustment hole in the carrier itself.

[l3asher]

Adam, I ordered the new shock tower, where should I mount the shock and camber links to get more forward traction.

l3asher- Start with the inner / lower camber link and outside shock mounting location.

I'm assuming I keep the hubs in the same place.

[MAXARN]

Hi everybody i have a question about the Losi B 2.0
I have hear rumour that LOSI will release an update of the Losi 8ight 2.0 soon. Is that true?
If so what is the update on car? what kind of parts will be new on the car?
Regards Peter

[TrU Integra]

Hi everybody i have a question about the Losi B 2.0
I have hear rumour that LOSI will release an update of the Losi 8ight 2.0 soon. Is that true?
If so what is the update on car? what kind of parts will be new on the car?
Regards Peter



team guys as far as i know are not allowed to release info like this. :p

[Keith Manton]

Whats up Adam just want to stop in and say hi.

[Rookie]

Adam,
other than the upgraded rear hubs allowing for the larger outer bearings, what have the team guys been doing to rectify the issue with blown out bearings? I do complete tear downs of my T 2.0 after every race and have still had rear bearings blow out on new bearings in a race day. Is there any look to Losi offering a fix for this issue in the future upgrades of the 2.0?

[ChrisL]

Hi Adam,

With the Lunsford 5mm turnbuckles on the buggy, do you change everything over to run the truggy ball ends and suspension balls?

Thanks

[loweredram]

Adam,


I called matrix today and spoke to them about the carbon fiber chassis for the Losi 8ight. I was considering buying one he said that you and Mike Truhe tested them out. I was wondering your thoughts on them compaired to the stock chassis and any benifits of using them and will this be an item that losi might consider using?

Thanks

[Rookie]

I ran the matrix chassis on my gen 1 8ight T, they have a great amount of flex to them and are on the durable side, however the draw back is if you are a true racer the weight regulations would not allow you to run the chassis at a sanctioned event. If you are using it in a club racing situation it will improve the power to weight ratio of your rig, however make sure that you make the appropriate shock oil or spring swaps to accommodate the weight change. Leaving it with the standard 40/35 1/2 makes the rig a tad on the bouncy side and uncontrollable.

[Token]

Are there any hopups or newly designed parts comming out for the 2.0 series?

[TrU Integra]

however the draw back is if you are a true racer the weight regulations would not allow you to run the chassis at a sanctioned event.

Not True as you can easily add weight's to make legal weight.

[Robert "Wick" Wickham]

Not True as you can easily add weight's to make legal weight.

Why take weight out of the lowest and best place to have it??? IMO there is no need for it. everybody would have it if made the car that much better. But thats just my 2 cents.:D

[Adam Drake]

stedy - Nova Rossi plus 4. two plastic shoes with black springs and two alum with green springs.

Robert "Wick" Wickham- Thanks Wick!

dnebout - 7.5 or 8mm will have more top-end power. It shouldn't hurt runtime too bad. maybe 45-60 seconds. I run the Nova Rossi pressure line cooler. Send me an email, and I'll get you a pic. adrake@losi.com

l3asher - Yes, the spindles are the same.

MAXARN- No plans for a update on the 8ight 2.0.

Keith Manton- Hello Keith!

ChrisL- I run the 4mm turnbuckles for buggy. If you use 5mm, you need to run the truck ends and balls.

loweredram- I run the stock chassis on my 8ight 2.0 (nitro). I run the graphite chassis on the 8ight E 2.0 because of the weight. I prefer a heavy chassis, but the electric cars are pretty heavy because of the batteries.

Token- Losi is always working on new items. Check out what's New on www.losi.com every Thursday.

[Mach1]

Hi Adam,

can you post your Nitromania setup in Nitro?

Thanks a lot

[moosenitro00]

What's up.

I just bought an 8ight-t 2.0, changing over from the STRR.
I've seen your set-up sheet, it's close to stock, do you have anything to add,
"new advice", etc.

Thank's moose.

[stedy]

Adam thank for response... what fuel do i run in the nova +4 its says the tuned edit. need 25% max i have o donnel 30% but what fuel should i use that has an oil percentage not lower than 10%. ??? help thanks


Losi 8ight buggy 1.5