Ask Dustin Evans

[Dustin Evans]

I will be in here to answer any questions you guys have about Losi electric off-road.

-Dustin Evans

[JustWill75]

What's the word on a new 2wd buggy?

Will their be a update to Xcelorin S. To make it more competetive with the Tekin systems and other pro ESC's that are out? I'm talking programing like turbo features.

[zippy_91]

Hi Dustin,

I just started racing a XXX-4 this year, but I haven't been able to find any current set ups on the Losi site. What's your base set up and what type of track would it be for? I typically run on a smaller track with a loose dirt or loamy track surface.

[Matt Chambers]

Hey Man!!!

We bashing wednesday at MHOR? :)

[Reid Glover]

Hey Man!!!

We bashing wednesday at MHOR? :)

Bashers :)

[grapejuice]

Bashers :)

I love bashing.... matt, I figured out a better line to whip from the berm to the triple landing and actual do it almost every time!

[Dustin Evans]

JUSTWILL75 - we are always working on things, Chambers and I have been working hard on setups to get the 2wd as good as possible. No plans for a new 2wd. As far as the excleorin, the newest programming that can be downloaded from the Losi website is awesome. That is what Chambers, Truhe, Fischer and I run. I feel it has the best and most consistent braking of any speedcontrol out their, also with a great power band. Using a computer, the xcelorin has so many different program features with throttle curve, brake curve, drag brake, and all other basic functions. Haven't run a tekin system but compared to other top systems, I have found the xcelorin to have the best overall feel.

Zippy_91 - I dont know my whole xxx-4 setup off the top of my head so I will get it out tonight and post it for you tomorrow.

Chambers- haha u know it

[Matt Chambers]

Grapejuice- that's great. tell me how and i'll do it on the first try again! Oh and sorry for stealing your avatar! :)

[Reid Glover]

Grapejuice sorry for stealing your avatar! :)

Haha :eek:

[grapejuice]

Grapejuice- that's great. tell me how and i'll do it on the first try again! Oh and sorry for stealing your avatar! :)

I'll let it slide this time :D

[30percent]

If you get paid by the answer, I'll glady fill the thread... :D

[warpig]

Dustin,

Where can I check out your xxx-cr setup?

[DDP]

yo dustin and matt,

getting the xxxcr ready for mhor....but i cant remember what you guys use for shock oil front and rear...


thanx for all the help.....all the time..lol

ps,my boy is gonna be with me and he is gonna start racing slash till he figures it out...then i was gonna get him a crt for his b-day....i fell hes gonna be good...peep the vid...tell me what you think?
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[Dustin Evans]

Warpig -here is my 2wd setup

FRONT:
Toe: 0
Ride Height: 24mm
Camber: -1 degree
Caster: stock
Sway bar: no
Oil: 27.5wt
Piston: 56
Spring: Orange
Limiters: none, unscrew shock bottoms 4 turns
Spindle Height: bottom
Axle Spacer: narrow
Steering Type: Bellcranks (**outer hole)
Bump Steer: none
Camber Link: 3-B with 3 washers
Shock Location: 3-Outside
VLA: Long
Front Wing: no

REAR:
Toe: stock
Pivot Support: 3 degrees (.020" washer under front of block) (** XXX pivot, BK2 arms and hubs)
Ride Height: 23mm
Camber: -1.5 degrees
Rear Hub Spacing: back
Driveshafts/Outdrives: steel/steel
swaybar: no
Oil: 20wt
Piston: 57
Spring: White (1.8 rate)
Limiters: .050"
Camber Link: 3-b
Shock Location: 2-Inside
VLA: short

Wing Position/mount: Forward/middle
Body & wing type: XXX-CR
Losi 5000mah LiPo
Battery Position: forward
Notes: 1/4 oz weight on each side of steering servo, 1/2 oz in front bulkhead with aluminum pivot ( which is an additional 1/4 oz over plastic) and 1/2 oz under servo arm. the car makes weight with no additional weight, but we have the weight in these locations because that is what makes the car feel the most balanced on the track.

ddp- i dont remember what we put in your car, come talk to me at the track homie!

[warpig]

Hey, thanks!!

Ben Burtle

[rob martin]

Great thread.

btw. whats the advantages of running the xxx rear end vs the cr rear end. I'm still pretty close to the box setup and for the most parts its working ok. I've added the lead weight around the servo etc. My problem is a on power push. I've tried pretty much every tire for the track that i race on but it still doesnt turn in as hard as i would like. It has gotten a lil better but its a tad away from really good. I feel like if i could get the rear end to rotate a lil bit more around turns or basically get a lil more steering from the rear of the car if that makes since it would be good. :cool:


Basically what intial changes would i notice by switching.

[Jr. Woodchuck]

Sup Dustin, Matty, Lars?

Miss racin with you guys, It's frikin hot down here in Texas. BUT, we get to run nitro year round!! My electric stuff is getting dusty. still runnin Losi and love my 2.0b, I'm trying to move back up to Denver but the economy isn't back up and running yet, so I'm stuck here. Keep in touch..

Doug

PS Dustin...still drinking Monster!!

[rob martin]

Great thread.

btw. whats the advantages of running the xxx rear end vs the cr rear end. I'm still pretty close to the box setup and for the most parts its working ok. I've added the lead weight around the servo etc. My problem is a on power push. I've tried pretty much every tire for the track that i race on but it still doesnt turn in as hard as i would like. It has gotten a lil better but its a tad away from really good. I feel like if i could get the rear end to rotate a lil bit more around turns or basically get a lil more steering from the rear of the car if that makes since it would be good. :cool:


Basically what intial changes would i notice by switching.

:cool:

thanks for any input or help

[Dustin Evans]

rob martin- The xxx rear end with the bellcranks up front just make the car feel much more consistent. I think it jumps better and has more steering, but just the consisntency from lap to lap is the big thing for me.

[rc-guy]

hi i would like to know what a good kv for a truggy would be and also what battery would be good for a 20 minute main if possible

i am thinking of using a tekin 2250 kv Sensored system and maybe a losi 4c 14 v lipo or maybe the 18 volt lipo.

i want something close to a nitro motor as i only race my truggy.

to add i bought the losi convertion kit for my 2.0 truggy so is the gearing good?

thanks for looking at this

[Dustin Evans]

rc-guy - I actually have never driven an electric 1/8th scale.... You should ask Billy Fischer in the "Ask The Team" Forum. He is the 09 Silverstate champ in electric buggy so he should be able to answer any question you have.

[slow]

Dustin - do you have a starting indoor setup for the xxx4?

[Todd Hodge]

hi i would like to know what a good kv for a truggy would be and also what battery would be good for a 20 minute main if possible

i am thinking of using a tekin 2250 kv Sensored system and maybe a losi 4c 14 v lipo or maybe the 18 volt lipo.

i want something close to a nitro motor as i only race my truggy.

to add i bought the losi convertion kit for my 2.0 truggy so is the gearing good?

thanks for looking at this

I recommend a LOSI 2100kv with a 4S LiPo. To me 5S is a bit too much. If you consider a 5S you may want to back off on the higher kv motors.

With 2100kv and 4S i would recommend 45/15 to 16, 5S a 45/14-15, obviously a larger pinion for a bigger track and conversely a smaller pinon for a smaller track. If you go with the Tekin motor you will want to see their gearing recommendations.

[kghills]

Dustin, found your thread. Very cool. Wanted to thank you and Matt again for the setup help with Jason's XXX4 at Trackside for the Spektrum race. With all those changes I made the car looked totally different on the track. Jason really seemed to take to the way it performed. Being new to RC, your help was really appreciated and Jason really loves to drive.

It was great having you, Matt and Dakota at Trackside. I was impressed with your willingness to take the time to help with setups. You always seemed to have a smile on your face. Hope you enjoyed the event as much as it looked like you did.

I hope they get an easy way for you to post your setups. I would really like to get your setup sheets for the XXX4, XXX and XXXT the way you ran at trackside.

Hope to see you again soon, Keith and Jason.

[myrock]

Dustin, found your thread. Very cool. Wanted to thank you and Matt again for the setup help with Jason's XXX4 at Trackside for the Spektrum race. With all those changes I made the car looked totally different on the track. Jason really seemed to take to the way it performed. Being new to RC, your help was really appreciated and Jason really loves to drive.

It was great having you, Matt and Dakota at Trackside. I was impressed with your willingness to take the time to help with setups. You always seemed to have a smile on your face. Hope you enjoyed the event as much as it looked like you did.

I hope they get an easy way for you to post your setups. I would really like to get your setup sheets for the XXX4, XXX and XXXT the way you ran at trackside.

Hope to see you again soon, Keith and Jason.

I second that, You were all great to have, we couldn't have asked for better attitudes. We are at a disadvantage at Trackside, being they cater to the associated guys, and you were all anxious to help. Adding to it you winning truck and buggy shows them associated isn't the only way to go. Also the generosity was great, thanks for the tires. I'll be practicing this Saturday specifically to get my buggy to turn more to my liking. For 12 years old Dakota knows how to get around. I wish Andrew and I had half that talent. wish you were closer, it was a lot of fun, but hopefully you'll be back to defend your titles. That was great since Trackside seems to think Associated is the only manufacturer.

[Dustin Evans]

kghillis- I'm glad we could help! It was a pleasure beeing at trackside, awesome people, awesome facility, and all around great event! thanks for the kind words. I will post some setups in the next post

myrock- We will be back to trackside for sure! Top notch facility and people. Like I said above, thanks for the kind words and I am glad we were able to help out as much as possible. Meeting great people (like the ones at trackside) is what really makes racing and traveling so much fun.

[myrock]

How does the short VLA affect the truck or buggy? I run long, common sense says it will make the spring act stiffer, but does it affect anything else?

[Joseph Shanks]

Hello Dustin, I just joined the forum and happy to be here! I recently repurchased a xxxcr buggy. I got your setup from the april fools classic from Corey here at ir/cr and it has been great. Just a few questions... How much weight were you running, where, and how much? What milliamp lipo? What wing or wings? And lastly what tires/ foams and sauce. Thanks a bunch, Joseph.

[Dustin Evans]

here is my 2wd setup from Trackside, sorry for the delay, had finals last week.

FRONT:
Toe: 0
Ride Height: 24mm
Camber: -1 degree
Caster: stock
Sway bar: no
Oil: 27.5wt
Piston: 56
Spring: Orange
Limiters: none, unscrew shock bottoms 2 1/2 turns
Spindle Height: bottom
Axle Spacer: narrow
Steering Type: Bellcranks (**outer hole)
Bump Steer: none
Camber Link: 3-B with 3 washers
Shock Location: 3-Outside
VLA: Long
Front Wing: no

REAR:
Toe: stock
Pivot Support: 3 degrees (.020" washer under front of block) (** XXX pivot, BK2 arms and hubs)
Ride Height: 23mm
Camber: -1 degrees
Rear Hub Spacing: back
Driveshafts/Outdrives: steel/cvd
swaybar: no
Oil: 25wt
Piston: 56
Spring: White (1.8 rate)
Limiters: .050"
Camber Link: 3-b
Shock Location: 2-Inside
VLA: short

Wing Position/mount: Forward/middle
Body & wing type: XXX-CR
Losi 5000mah LiPo
Battery Position: forward
Notes: 1/4 oz weight on each side of steering servo, 1/2 oz in front bulkhead with aluminum pivot ( which is an additional 1/4 oz over plastic) and 1/2 oz under servo arm.

[Dustin Evans]

myrock- long VLA does what you said, makes the suspension softer. I never run long VLA except front of 2wd but it should create more traction. Its one of those things you just have to try and see what it does because it could react different at different types of tracks.


Joseph Shanks-In my 2wd I run 1/2oz n bulkhead, 1/2oz under servo arm, and 1/4oz on both sides of the servo. I run losi 5000mah batteries. xxxcr wing always. Pink taper fronts with stock foam, pink BK-bar with trinity bomb1 insert, and zipgrip2 for sauce

[Joseph Shanks]

Thanks for the quick response! Looks like I'm not running near enough weight. I look forward to making the change sat. Thanks again, Joseph.

[radar2819]

congrats Dustin for winning mod buggy and mod truck. I was wondering if you could share your winning setup for your xxx-t. Thanks and congrats again

[kghills]

Hi Dustin, just wanted to touch base with you again. Hope the holidays are going well for you. The setup help from you and Matt at Trackside on Jason's XXX4 really helped. He is up to 19 laps now and closing on 20. Kind of a big deal when your 8 I guess.

Hope they help you guys get your setup sheets posted.

Keith and Jason.

[RCGaryK]

I posted this in the XXX-T thread as well...before realizing that Dustin had a thread of his own :rolleyes:

To Dustin, Matt or Dakotah...

When we were up at Scotty's for the Spektrum Race I know I talked with you guys about the LOSA2995 QC Hub adapters. What rear hub carriers did you end up going to with these and what driveshafts did you use? I was going to convert my truck to this setup before our indoor season starts on the 8th. Hope all is going well with you and have a happy new year!

[socal714guy]

Hi all,

Im new to the Elertic world of rc cars. So im really confused on motors and other small stuff of my new strike. Ive read other post and still havent came up totally sure of what Motor i should run. I hear Losi drivers and others saying Xcelorin, and there is a Sensored and non senosored.. and sizes. Im so confused. Im planning on running in the mod class at my local track. Im also looking to convert my tires to 1/8 scale buggy tires on the truck. Is that a good idea too? Since owning it for 3 days, I have no reverse and my diff cups and dog bones are shot. So i purchased the cv boots and looking to add the ball Diff, is that a good idea too?? Sorry for all the questions.

thanks jason

[Dustin Evans]

Sorry for the delay on getting back to you guys.

radar2819- Thank you and here is my truck setup from Trackside and also what I just ran at CRCRC

FRONT:
Toe: 0
Ride Height:30.5mm
Camber: -1 degree
Caster: stock
Sway bar: no
Oil: 30
Piston: 57
Spring: silver
Limiters: .210
Spindle Height: bottom
Axle Spacer: narrow
Steering Type: Bellcranks (**inner hole with .060 under ballstud)
Bump Steer: .090
Camber Link: 2-B with 2 washers
Shock Location: 1-inside
VLA: short

REAR:
Toe: stock
Pivot Support: 2 degrees
Ride Height: 29.5
Camber: -1 degrees
Rear Hub Spacing: back
Driveshafts/Outdrive: xxx-t universal dogbone
swaybar: no
Oil: 30
Piston: drilled 55
Spring: White (1.8 rate)
Limiters: none, unscrew bottoms 2 turns
Camber Link: 2-b (MF2 hubs with quick change adapters)
Shock Location: 4-middle
VLA: short


Body & wing type: XXX-T CR
Losi 5000mah LiPo
Battery Position: middle
Notes: 1/4 oz weight on each side of steering servo. *****MF2 plastic hubs with quick change adapters****

Kghills- anytime on the help and thanks for the kind words, means a lot. Hope you had a good holiday season as well.

- I am running the MF2 plastic rear hubs on my truck with xxx-t universal dogbone

socal714guy- I would suggest a sensored brushless system, the power band is much smoother and easier to drive than that of a sensorless system. The Xcelorin sensored system is what I run in all my vehicles. For a motor I would suggest asking what most people are running at your track, but usually a 10.5 is plenty of power, but if you are looking for more go with an 8.5. Yes the cvd's and ball diff will make the car much better.

[myrock]

Hey buddy, I haven't talked to you in a while. I watched you run at MOHR a couple weeks ago on Live RC. I also watch the CRCRC races this past weekend. Man you can wheel a car. I wish I had some of that talent. Any way, thanks for posting your set up and I hope things are going well.

[Chris Wolfson]

Great job at CRCRC!

[radar2819]

Thank you Dustin for the set up. Whats the diffrence between the outer hole and the inner hole on the bell crank? How does it make the truck react? Also running at Trackside my truck has too much steering and other guys told me it was the front tires i am using (Jconcepts bar codes) any tire do you think would be better? Is there any way to keep the rear of the truck more planted in the exit of turns? Thanks for all your help.

[Dustin Evans]

Myrock- thanks for all the support and kind words, it really means a lot and is what makes this hobby and traveling so much fun. hope all is well with you also! Have a good one.

Chris Wolfson- Thanks man! It was great meeting you and Eric Clark. Thanks for all the help at CRCRC, you and Eric are a class act and enjoyed pitting with you guys! keep in touch. Eric has my email adress, so get a hold of him if you have any questions or want to get a hold of me.

radar2819- the inner hole on the bellcrank makes the steering much smoother and helps prevent the truck from over steering. If you are not running the inner hole, that change will help a lot with your truck over steering. Also when you run the inner hole on the bell crank, you need .060 washer (2 gold losi washers) under the ballstud on the bellcrank and than .090 ( 3 gold losi washer) under the ballstud on the spindle for everything to work correctly. I ran pink taper pin fronts on my truck out there. I never tried the barcodes so I don't know how it will react compared to the pinks, but it is something worth trying.

[Skeeter2]

Dustin,
What was your XXX-CR setup at CRCRC?
Thanks!

[radar2819]

Thanks Dustin, I changed to the inner hole and made a big diffrence. I also went to a taper pin in white compound and left the bar coders in the rear and that combo worked great. Thank you again for all your help.

[hitordie010]

Hey Dustin,

I wanted to know if you could give me some tips for the XXX-T CR on really high bite/smooth track. I heard that the Hot Rod Hobbies Shootout was good traction and if you would give me your thought on shock location, oil, springs. Thanks for your support.

[Dustin Evans]

skeeter2- here is my 2wd setup from CRCRC, its the same as I ran at trackside also

FRONT:
Toe: 0
Ride Height: 24mm
Camber: -1 degree
Caster: stock
Sway bar: no
Oil: 27.5wt
Piston: 56
Spring: Orange
Limiters: none, unscrew shock bottoms 3 turns
Spindle Height: bottom
Axle Spacer: narrow
Steering Type: Bellcranks (**outer hole)
Bump Steer: none
Camber Link: 3-B with 3 washers
Shock Location: 3-Outside
VLA: Long
Front Wing: no

REAR:
Toe: stock
Pivot Support: 3 degrees (.020" washer under front of block) (** XXX pivot, BK2 arms and hubs)
Ride Height: 23mm
Camber: -1 degrees
Rear Hub Spacing: back
Driveshafts/Outdrives: steel/cvd
swaybar: no
Oil: 25wt
Piston: 56
Spring: White (1.8 rate)
Limiters: .050"
Camber Link: 3-b
Shock Location: 2-Inside
VLA: short

Wing Position/mount: Forward/ low
Body & wing type: XXX-CR
Losi 5000mah LiPo
Battery Position: forward
Notes: 1/4 oz weight on each side of steering servo, 1/2 oz in front bulkhead with aluminum pivot ( which is an additional 1/4 oz over plastic) and 1/2 oz under servo arm.

hitordie010- back one page (page 4) is my standard setup for truck, that is the setup I have been running for over a year and haven't really changed it. I have tried different shocks but always go back to what I have posted. I don't really mess with shocks much, I keep fresh o-rings in to make sure they are working properly and really concentrate on tires and foam, which I think is 90% of setup. Tires always make the biggest difference in how a car feels.

[nitrofish24]

what is the best all around diff oil set up for a sportsman driver just having fun.im not a pro nor want to be.i just dont know enough to fix the problem.i adjusted the droop so i dont have as much weight transfer but i dont seem to get alot of front end drive off the corners.thanks

[mojo.309]

what does it mean when turning on the exceliron esc and the blue light comes on then all four blue yellow red green start flashing at the same time ? i got steering but no power to the 6.5 motor, i had it set and working well then shut it off for a few hours came back to it went to power it up and thats when all four lights started flashing. any ideas? thanks

[Dustin Evans]

nitrofish- the only diffs that I run in my 8 2.0 is 5,000 front, 7,000 center, and 2,000 rear. Thicker center diff will give you a more 4-wheel drive feeling and I think that is what you are looking for.

mojo.309- I have had that before and it usually means the sensor wire went bad, it happens from time to time when you plug and unplug a lot. So just replace sensor wire and should be good.

[Dan_Neer]

Dustin can you post you XXX-4 set up from CRCRC

[Hadley]

Yo Dustin,

You gunna make it to Brownie's track next weekend for the ECT races?

[Dalton Shirk]

Nice run at TRCR this weekend Dustin. I am the guy who announced most of the quals on Saturday. Can you post your set ups that you ran at TRCR for your XXXTCR and XXXCR? I hope you enjoyed your stay in Washington except for the rain.

[myrock]

Sorry for the delay on getting back to you guys.

radar2819- Thank you and here is my truck setup from Trackside and also what I just ran at CRCRC

FRONT:
Toe: 0
Ride Height:30.5mm
Camber: -1 degree
Caster: stock
Sway bar: no
Oil: 30
Piston: 57
Spring: silver
Limiters: .210
Spindle Height: bottom
Axle Spacer: narrow
Steering Type: Bellcranks (**inner hole with .060 under ballstud)
Bump Steer: .090
Camber Link: 2-B with 2 washers
Shock Location: 1-inside
VLA: short

REAR:
Toe: stock
Pivot Support: 2 degrees
Ride Height: 29.5
Camber: -1 degrees
Rear Hub Spacing: back
Driveshafts/Outdrive: xxx-t universal dogbone
swaybar: no
Oil: 30
Piston: drilled 55
Spring: White (1.8 rate)
Limiters: none, unscrew bottoms 2 turns
Camber Link: 2-b (MF2 hubs with quick change adapters)
Shock Location: 4-middle
VLA: short


Body & wing type: XXX-T CR
Losi 5000mah LiPo
Battery Position: middle
Notes: 1/4 oz weight on each side of steering servo. *****MF2 plastic hubs with quick change adapters****

Kghills- anytime on the help and thanks for the kind words, means a lot. Hope you had a good holiday season as well.

- I am running the MF2 plastic rear hubs on my truck with xxx-t universal dogbone

socal714guy- I would suggest a sensored brushless system, the power band is much smoother and easier to drive than that of a sensorless system. The Xcelorin sensored system is what I run in all my vehicles. For a motor I would suggest asking what most people are running at your track, but usually a 10.5 is plenty of power, but if you are looking for more go with an 8.5. Yes the cvd's and ball diff will make the car much better.

Hi Dustin, watched you run pretty well at cactus. I have a couple questions about your setup on your XXXT CR.
1: Is it possible you have your shock pistons listed on your setup from Trackside, listed backwards from front to rear? You have it listed as a 57 which is black in the front, and a 55 in the rear which is orange. It seems bouncy in the back and stiff in the front is why I ask.
2: it says .060 under the inner ball stud for the steering bell crank, then it says .090 for bump steer. That would be under the stud on spindle side of the same link correct? If so, why not just put .030 on the spindle and forget the .060 on the bell crank side?

Hope things are going well, and are you missing Matt now that he moved to Cali?

[E-Dog]

Hey Dustin, I was wondering if you can post u'r setup from the 09 Nats ?
Interested in 2wd & Truck CR ?

Thanks.

[Tiiight]

Hey Dustin. This is Anthony White at High desert raceplace in Grand Junction. I was wondering if you could give me a good setup for the xxxt-cr for that type of dirt.

[RCGaryK]

Hey Dustin, what were you, Matt and Dakotah running for tire dope at Trackside in December? I'm getting ready for Scotty's Short Course race in 2 weeks and looking to get some more bite. Thanks man!

[myrock]

Hi Gary, they were using Trinity Zip Grip 2. It works good on Losi pink tires, but I tried it on bar codes and they were beyond junk that run. Make sure you try it before aQual at the shoot out. See you there.

[RCGaryK]

I thought that's what it was but wasn't sure. I've got a ton of tires to work with in a variety of compounds too from stock Slash, SC10 and Blitz tires to Goosebumps, HPI ATTK, M3 Calibers... I really, really, really want a Spec SC tire that's a premount to come soon :(

I have some homebrewed stuff that I ran in December and am just finding it to be slick on the softer compound tires.

[Casper]

Hi Dustin, watched you run pretty well at cactus. I have a couple questions about your setup on your XXXT CR.
1: Is it possible you have your shock pistons listed on your setup from Trackside, listed backwards from front to rear? You have it listed as a 57 which is black in the front, and a 55 in the rear which is orange. It seems bouncy in the back and stiff in the front is why I ask.
2: it says .060 under the inner ball stud for the steering bell crank, then it says .090 for bump steer. That would be under the stud on spindle side of the same link correct? If so, why not just put .030 on the spindle and forget the .060 on the bell crank side?

Hope things are going well, and are you missing Matt now that he moved to Cali?

I am not Dustin but the shocks are not a typo. This is basically the kit setup for the shocks. We have always run small pistions in the front and large pistions in the rear on the truck. Well at lesat as long as I can remember.

The .060 on the inner is to make sure the steering link does not hit the belcrank on full suspension compression. This is only needed if running the inner ackerman setting. If you run the outter ackerman setting you can run .000 inside and .030 on the outside to get the same bump steer setting. The truck almost always runs .030 more on the spindle.

I thought that's what it was but wasn't sure. I've got a ton of tires to work with in a variety of compounds too from stock Slash, SC10 and Blitz tires to Goosebumps, HPI ATTK, M3 Calibers... I really, really, really want a Spec SC tire that's a premount to come soon :(

I have some homebrewed stuff that I ran in December and am just finding it to be slick on the softer compound tires.

Gary-- Check out www.sticky-kicks.com They make some great tire sauce. I would give red a try if you don't want to buy all three as it seems to be the most popular. I also run green when it is wet but red is kind of the default.

[Frank Root]

Awesome job at April Fool's Dustin!!

[Dustin Evans]

Sorry for the delay on getting back to everyone.

Dan Neer- I will get my 4wd setup on here soon

Dalton Shirk- My setups for truck and 2wd are the same as I have posted on here. 2wd setup is on page 5 and truck setup is on page 4.

MyRock- I have the pistons listed correct. if it is bouncy or too soft in the back go up in oil 2.5 - 5 weight. The reasons for .060 and .090 on spindle and bellcranks is to get the correct geometry and have all the steering components working correctly. Evertything is going well, still get to see Matty at all the big races, just not every week club racing!

E-Dog- My setup from the '09 nationals is the same as my 2wd setup on page 5 but with 57pistons and 20wt in the rear. I like the 56 piston with 25wt much better now though, so I would Try that

Tiight- I would start with the truck setup I have posted on page 4 of my thread. Pretty much what I run everywhere!

RcgaryK- My rock is correct on the traction additive, We were all using zipgrip2, awesome on pinks, I don't know how it will react on other compounds though.

Casper- Thanks homie, you got it covered!

Frank Root- Thanks man, it was fun, cars were awesome!

[Tiiight]

Thanks Dustin. Oh and good job at April Fools!

[RCGaryK]

Gary-- Check out www.sticky-kicks.com They make some great tire sauce. I would give red a try if you don't want to buy all three as it seems to be the most popular. I also run green when it is wet but red is kind of the default.

Just ordered some and having it shipped to the Hotel. Hopefully it's there Friday :) Thanks for the heads up

[kghills]

Hey Dustin, thanks for getting that Trackside setup posted. I have Jason entered in all the stock classes for the ROAR nats in Joliet plus 4x4 SCT. It would be fun to see you Matt and Dakota again. I hope you can make it out our way.

Keith and Jason.

[Dalton Shirk]

Hey Dustin do you run the aluminum pivot blocks, front and rear on your truck and buggy?

[Frank Root]

Dustin, you were dialed at the Nationals, especially in truck. Would you mind posting the setup you used to TQ the ROAR Nationals?

Frank

[Briguy]

Dustin, you were dialed at the Nationals, especially in truck. Would you mind posting the setup you used to TQ the ROAR Nationals?

Frank

+1
I`d like to try it and compare to what I`m running now . Think next week they are tearing down the track to get ready for the RC Pro series race in a few weeks .

[wiita]

Dustin, you were dialed at the Nationals, especially in truck. Would you mind posting the setup you used to TQ the ROAR Nationals?

Frank

+2 That truck looked really nice out on that track. Cant wait to see what you did differently. Thanks

[Dustin Evans]

Here was my Truck setup for nationals at Leisure hours:


FRONT:
Toe: 0
Ride Height:30mm
Camber: -1 degree
Caster: stock
Sway bar: no
Oil: 30
Piston: 57
Spring: silver
Limiters: .210
Spindle Height: bottom
Axle Spacer: narrow
Steering Type: Bellcranks (**inner hole with .060 under ballstud)
Bump Steer: .090
Camber Link: 2-B with 2 washers
Shock Location: 1-inside
VLA: short

REAR:
Toe: stock
Pivot Support: 2 degree block *raised .050 under rear of pivot and .060 under front of pivot*
Ride Height: 29 mm
Camber: -1 degrees
Rear Hub Spacing: back
Driveshafts/Outdrive: xxx-t universal dogbone
swaybar: no
Oil: 27.5
Piston: 56
Spring: White (1.8 rate)
Limiters: none, unscrew bottoms 2 turns
Camber Link: 2-b (MF2 hubs with quick change adapters)
Shock Location: 4-middle
VLA: short


Body & wing type: XXX-T CR
Losi 5000mah LiPo
Battery Position: middle
Notes: 1/4 oz weight on each side of steering servo, 1/2 oz in bumper, and 2 1/2 oz spread throughout the chassis. ( front corners and rear corners). *****MF2 plastic hubs with quick change adapters****

[kghills]

Hey Dustin. Just wanted to congratulate you again on your win and TQ with the buggy and TQ with the SCT. It was really great to see you and Matt again. You guys really do a great job and it is really cool when you give us beginners a hand with our Losi products. You always seem so happy to race it makes me smile just watching you. You will have to pass your Trackside set up along to us who buy the new buggy:)

Take care and see you soon, Keith, Jason's dad.

[RayKindstrom]

Hey Dustin. Just wanted to congratulate you again on your win and TQ with the buggy and TQ with the SCT. It was really great to see you and Matt again. You guys really do a great job and it is really cool when you give us beginners a hand with our Losi products. You always seem so happy to race it makes me smile just watching you. You will have to pass your Trackside set up along to us who buy the new buggy:)

Take care and see you soon, Keith, Jason's dad.

Like Keith said! Always smiling and always taking the time to answer questions......Losi is lucky to have you! You made the new buggy look like it was on rails all weekend, but you could make a UPS truck fast! Congrats!

[E-Dog]

Hey Dustin. Just wanted to congratulate you again on your win and TQ with the buggy and TQ with the SCT. It was really great to see you and Matt again. You guys really do a great job and it is really cool when you give us beginners a hand with our Losi products. You always seem so happy to race it makes me smile just watching you. You will have to pass your Trackside set up along to us who buy the new buggy:)

Take care and see you soon, Keith, Jason's dad.

+1 set up on the new buggy :)

[Dustin Evans]

kghills/Ray Kingstrom- Thanks for the kind words, means a lot. It was great being back at trackside and racing with everyone. Great group of guys up at Trackside! We will be getting the setups out for the car, but what I ran at trackside was only after 2 1/2-3 weeks of development, its only going to get a lot better from here! Now being able to actually race the car and do a lot of testing and deveoplment with setups. I will keep everyone up to date.

[kghills]

kghills/Ray Kingstrom- Thanks for the kind words, means a lot. It was great being back at trackside and racing with everyone. Great group of guys up at Trackside! We will be getting the setups out for the car, but what I ran at trackside was only after 2 1/2-3 weeks of development, its only going to get a lot better from here! Now being able to actually race the car and do a lot of testing and deveoplment with setups. I will keep everyone up to date.

Cool Dustin. Glad to hear you enjoyed the new track. It has really been working out good for off road racers around the area. I will keep an eye out for your setup but since us regular guys will need to wait till Feb. or so for the 22 you and Matt will have a little time to dial them in. To see you both so fast this soon is pretty amazing.

Keith and Jason.

[Muggydude]

Hey dustin, what are you and matt thinking will be a good setup for shock springs on the XXX-SCT at mhor? thanks

[Dustin Evans]

Muggydude- If you go to losi.com, than click on the xxx-sct RTR, than click resources, you will find setup sheets for the xxx-sct, and one of them is my setup from trackside, which will be the same setup I run at MHOR

[whoajoe]

Hey, Dustin! Just want to say you're my favorite pro driver, for sure. Lol. But anyway, I was wondering what your XXX-4 setup was. I know someone asked you earlier in this thread, but I think you just said you had to look because you didn't know it off the top of your head. Obviously you're running the steering mod, but what about shocks, links, etc...? Thanks, and good luck at the Reedy Race!

[scdriver]

Dustin, are the set-up sheets for the sct with stock gear diff, or with the ball diff? I took the rtr diff out, but put it back in and am faster. Thanks for all the help. Losi/TLR drivers are all excellent for helping us all out. Thanks Guys!

[Chef]

Any one have Dustins last setup for his xxxcr, or if you have a chance to post it Dustin. Please and thank you

[StadiumXXX-Tmf2]

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Hello,
I get the whole gear ratio thing, but here is where im confused, I have a XXX-Tmf2, i'm running the Kinetic system with a ballistic 13.5, and a thunder power 7.4v 65c 5300mah battery, a 2.4 radio and a JR 9100s steering servo, my trans ratio is 2.43 my spur is 86t and acording to the novak site I should be at a 8.5 ratio, give or take, that would mean I need to run a 25t pinion.?
I run on a short course with one triple jump and a single jump, won't that be to big of a pinion for a short course??? any sugestions on what pinion I should run, or change the spur, please let me know if the 25t is what I should run, im tring to get it all dialed inso I can be competitive.
Thanks for all your help,
StadiumXXX-Tmf2
J.T. what I go by

[Chris Wolfson]

Dustin, are the set-up sheets for the sct with stock gear diff, or with the ball diff? I took the rtr diff out, but put it back in and am faster. Thanks for all the help. Losi/TLR drivers are all excellent for helping us all out. Thanks Guys!

Dustin runs the ball diff in his truck.

[StadiumXXX-Tmf2]

Cograts Dustin and TLR on the win!!!

[NUZUM]

Good Job Dude !!! met you at midwest nats Your a good guy man !!!!

[Casper]

You da man Dustin. Way to go! :D

[radar2819]

Congrats on the reedy win. Watched it all on live rc and you looked so dailed. What did you think of the proline tires on your 22?

[Dustin Evans]

WhoaJoe- Waddup JC! Thanks for the kind words. My 4-wheel has steering mod, than camber link 2 infront, 2-a camber link rear. Than with normal shocks I ran 30 wt 57 silver upfront with .050 limiting, 25 wt 56 grey spring rear with .050 limiting. 2-outside shock location infront, 1-inside shock location rear. 7.5 front kickup. hope this helps!

scdriver- I run ball diff in my SC

chef- My last xxx-cr setup was the exact same as Truhe's national winning setup that is on the losi website.

Stadium xxx-tmf2- That gearing sounds correct for a 13.5, you have to gear those motors high, but just check the temps after 5 min. For SC I would start at about 86/22 and check temps the same way with 13.5

Nuzum- Thanks for the kind words, means a lot!

Casper- Thanks man, it was crazy!

Radar- Thank you very much. the pro-line tires were good but that was what we had to run and haven't ran any other tire at that track.

[StadiumXXX-Tmf2]

WhoaJoe- Waddup JC! Thanks for the kind words. My 4-wheel has steering mod, than camber link 2 infront, 2-a camber link rear. Than with normal shocks I ran 30 wt 57 silver upfront with .050 limiting, 25 wt 56 grey spring rear with .050 limiting. 2-outside shock location infront, 1-inside shock location rear. 7.5 front kickup. hope this helps!

scdriver- I run ball diff in my SC

chef- My last xxx-cr setup was the exact same as Truhe's national winning setup that is on the losi website.

Stadium xxx-tmf2- That gearing sounds correct for a 13.5, you have to gear those motors high, but just check the temps after 5 min. For SC I would start at about 86/22 and check temps the same way with 13.5

Nuzum- Thanks for the kind words, means a lot!

Casper- Thanks man, it was crazy!

Radar- Thank you very much. the pro-line tires were good but that was what we had to run and haven't ran any other tire at that track.

Great, thanks a lot

[Juice]

Dustin, You wouldn't happen to remember the setup you ran on your 22 at the CRCRC Midwest Champs would you? Maybe just a rough setup starting point for the 22? I race at the RC Factory mostly so if you could give me a starting point I would appreciate it. Thanks bro!

[schenkies]

Congratualation with your victory at the EOS in my home country (Sweden). Can I ask you what electronics (ESC/Motor + wind) you used at this race?

[Matt Sunderlage]

Hey Dustin,

Nice win at reedy!!:cool:

Do you have a 22 set-up sheet from the Spectrum race you won at Trackside????

[kghills]

Hey Dustin! I just had a chance to read your LiveRC interview/bio. Very nice. Glad to hear you are doing so well. I can't help but remember how happy you seem when racing every time I hear or see your name. It is really cool to see a person do so well in something they seem to enjoy so much doing.

Take care, Keith and Jason.

[avtar4987]

hey Dustin,

I was wondering, what was your shock setup on your xxx4 at Reedy? I bought two 22. and decided on running big bores on my XXX4. my initial run was way to stiff, Front: 57 piston, 32.5 wt, and silver springs Rear; 56 pistons, 27.7 wt, and white springs. I just used the same set up I was running in my small bore shocks. I guess it does not work the same. Also what are you doing to mount up on the shock tower. I noticed that the shock was leaning way to far to the front of the buggy, so I shimmed it back 3mm. by doing this it seemed to soften the suspension a lil. but not my much. By having the shocks more inline, maybe I am heading in the wrong directoin, but any help would be great, and congrats on having a good year, so far.


Tony

[Dustin Evans]

Juice- The setup I ran at CRCRC is the same as my Reedy race setup which can be found at Tlracing.com

Schenkies- Thanks! I was using the new Orion vortex r10 pro speed controller and Orion Vortex VST Pro motor in 7.5 wind

Matt Sunderlage- Thank you! The setup I used at the spektrum race is very similar to my reedy race setup and is improved from the spektrum race, so I would go with that setup.

Kghills- Thanks for the kind words!

Avtar4987- I shim the shocks back a little so they are more inline. Shocks, Im running drilled 55 with 30 wt silver upfront, than 5-5-4-4, with 22 1/2 grey spring rear. 5-5-4-4 = two holes drilled to 55 and 2 holes drilled to 54

[jordankoza]

Hit a bump and the motor cut out....

wasnt overheated - all wires are connected - battery is charged

tried running the ec setup again and it wont work
forward land ec ights red.......reverse and ec lights orange....
steering works fine........

not sure what is going on here

help?

[avtar4987]

Hey dustin,

So I have your set up on my 22 and running at PRCR. Now every time, I come off the strait and cut in the first turn the inside wheel lifts off the ground. Now everyone here is running your set up, and I am the only one who is having this problem. I took the car completely apart, and found nothing out of whack. Everything is symmetrical and nothing is binding. Oh and its only the left front. Off the track if I push down the right rear shock tower, the left front wheel lifts a half an inch off the ground. If I push the left rear shock tower the right front tire is planted. Everyone I ask about it, tells me to try set up changes and change limiters. Only problem with that is that I am running the exact set up as everyone else and I am the only car to have this condition. Your help is highly appreciated.

Tony

[Strike Back]

Hey Dustin I see Post #84 with your partial setup listed...Thats great !

But what are some other things, such as REAR ANTI SQUAT? Front Camber link and any washer under ballstud? Any Added weights?

It looks like almost matches Frank Root 2011 setup, no? just different shock oil and possibly camber link position on front if I can clarify that?

Thanks a BUNCH....Your da man for sure of our vehicles !

[kghills]

Dustin, it was a pleasure to have you at Trackside again and really exciting to see Jason actually race with you this time out. It was really a thrill for him to hang with your mod in practice even if he was running his 4x4:). Your performance with a borrowed 4x4 with no setup changes and the same set of tires was very impressive. It says a lot for you and Losi in my opinion. Good luck and have fun at the worlds.

Keith and Jason.

[Racegun]

My xxx-sct is working very well at my track except for two large jumps where I have trouble keeping the thing from flying away. I have hacked up the body about as much as I can to allow air flow, but that has not worked. I have started stabbing the brake ai lift off and this seems to help but it is not the optimum landing position on one jump and I am losing shot of time there. I guess my next move is to start adding weight, but my concern is that I will loose the feel it has now. Do you have any suggestions that might make the change easier? Do you increase a certain amount of oil weight or spring rate per so many ounces of weight added? Or is there another way to make this body work... The truck is awesome with the body off. Thanks in advance.

[chris bowen]

Dustin what motor are you running in your 4x4 truck and can you post your current setup sheet in the Texas race? Good driving again bud..... Thanks....chris

[OneKiwi]

Hi Dustin..
Where can I find your EOS - Tomelilla setup sheet?
thanks
Simon

[Dustin Evans]

Sorry for the long delay on the responses guys, I will be getting back to everyone each week from now on!

Jordankoza- I honestly do not know much about that vehicle, so your best bet would be to contact horizon support. The number is on the losi website. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

Avtar- Yea there could be a lot of things causing that and is hard for me to know exactly what it is without looking at the car. Make sure the shocks are all the same length and everything is the same side to side. Than after that have someone like Shaun Dunlap take a look at the car and see if he can pinpoint the problem. Hope this helps!

Strikeback-- Yes the Frank Root xxx4 setup is what I run, and is a really good starting point for that vehicle.

Kghills- Its always good seing you guys and thanks again for all the kind words!

Racegun- the problem you are having is a tendency that all shortcourse trucks have. You just have to try and get the nose down as soon as you can after the truck gets in the air. I have been running my bodies with no holes cut in it and have found that to be the best in most cases. So I would try a body with no holes.

Chris Bowen- At the shortcourse race I was running the novak 550 4.5 but now I am running the new Orion vortex 550 4.5 which is very good. The setup I am running is posted on the losi website and is the "Milwaukee SC showdown setup."

One kiwi- The setup I ran in Sweden was the exact "ReedyRace" setup that is posted on Tlracing.com. I think our latest setup, which is from the nationals and also posted on the website, is better though. Just use 27 shock oil all the way around instead of 32.

[RShockley]

I just recently started racing and was wondering how much timing you normally run. I am running a ballistic 550 4.5 turn motor on my sct. Right now I am running 20 degrees advance through the esc with the motor still in the neutral position. I was told you ran the same motor at Mike's in the short course showdown. I race at Mikes and was wondering if you had any recommendations.

[Dustin Evans]

Rshockley- With the 550 motor I run the stock timing on the motor than add timing or boost through the speed control. I was using a 12 pinion with the stock spur gear. Every speed control is different on the settings for boost or timing, with the Orion r10 pro I have boost timing and turbo timing set at 15 out of 20. I would just gear it at 12 and add timing through the speed control until it feels good and keep an eye on the temperatures of the speedo and motor.

[whoajoe]

Yo Dustin! At the Spektrum Race it was rumoured you guys were running the Kyosho big bore springs. Can you give me any confirmation on that? Lol. In pictures it still looks like yellow rear, but maybe red truck fronts? Also, are you running more of your Nationals setup or Reedy setup on the indoor tracks, like Trackside? Thanks man, you're the best!

[RShockley]

What adjustments are yall doing if any to the wing on the 22? I just got my buggy the other day and am still trying to figure out all the adjustments that are able to be made. I have never raced buggies before but it has been fun so far. Probably going to start out with your reedy race setup and go from there.

[Dustin Evans]

Rshockley- The main thing to do with the wing is to mount it all the way forward when running the stock wing. You can also try different wings as they do make the car react different. 2wd is a lot of fun!

[RShockley]

Also I saw that in your nationals setup you went back to running the full size battery pack. Did you have to move the ESC back to the shelf again or did yall find another way to mount it. Just ordered my Orion R10 esc and vst 8.5T motor. I was able to drive someone elses 22 with that combo and it was the smoothest thing I have ever driven. Can't wait to get everything up and running soon.

[Spiderman]

Hi Dustin,

I watched your video trying the Losi2.0 on Neo Buggy last week. Is it possible for me to have the setup, please? I saw you were using silver springs front and rear. Our track condition looks just like the track on video. Thank you.