XXX-4 G+ 4WD Buggy

[DBL15]

how do you guys stop the front ball diff from coming loose ? :confused: :confused:

its tight when i start the race / heat but by the end it is loose as

[magnus]

Is there a hex that lets med use the tlr22 wheels on my xxx4? The hoel in the tlr22 hex is a bit too big. Don't bother too much if it makes the car a bit wide or narrow as I'll only race at the club.

[KalleL]

Magnus.
Try the hex from your XXXS, it will fit.
But you will have problem with the nut wrench.

[Chris Wolfson]

how do you guys stop the front ball diff from coming loose ? :confused: :confused:

its tight when i start the race / heat but by the end it is loose as

probably need a new diff nut....

[DBL15]

probably need a new diff nut....

ok thanks mate

yeh strange i thought it cant go much tighter before locking up but it still comes undone

[Loupák83]

Hi, I just bought this buggy. I need advice what to give to the engine sprocket 17.5. at 10.5, I read that the optimal 22 teeth.
main wheel is standard.
thank you
PS: sorry for my English but the translation makes me google

[Elaras]

I was wondering if any knows the difference between..

This
http://www.tlracing.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=LOSA1232

and this
http://www.tlracing.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=LOSA9849

The first one is in the hop up section, are they stronger ? have a little flexibility maybe ?

Can't find anything that say why its an upgrade.


Oh I read a lot of this thread, helped me a bunch, thanks !

[magnus]

Simply looks like one is plastic and the other graphite. Why it goes as option? Not the same as in the kit, maybe. Get an aluminium one if you can find instead. I broke the graphite one first thing I did. Rekon the plastic will break as well.

[Elaras]

Get an aluminium one if you can find instead. I broke the graphite one first thing I did. Rekon the plastic will break as well.

I think proving the existence of a yeti, would be easier then finding the parts in aluminum :)

I was hoping the plastic would be more flexible then the graphite, if anyone has tryed them let me know please.

[tyrone77]

Here in Australia. The aluminium pivot mounts are the strongest. I too had used the plastic and graphite. Just broke on the first lap.
I have heaps of the alu pivot mounts. Look on ebay or losi parts house as there are quite a fair bit of 7.5 and 10 degree mounts.

[DBL15]

yeh thats the 1st and only part i have broken as well

straight to the metal one and been great since

just wish i could keep the front diff tight lol thats my problem area :eek:

[tyrone77]

I have raced with the XXX4 for the last 10 years. I`m still racing with it. I cant see how everyone is having issues with the front diff.
I havent had a problem at all. The front diff is to be tight, with a little bit of slippage and the rear to be a little looser than the front.
Hope this helps.

[MOGGIE XL]

I agree with you Tyrone77 the Losi diff is the best one I've built.

[tyrone77]

Its off season here in OZ. Racing to start again in a few weeks. I have almost finished reconditioning my XXX4. Here are a few pics. Sorry for the poor quality as it was taken from my phone.
New arms, CVD`s and the list goes on. The only original part is the chassis.2683

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[mplocksmith]

The tips are highly informative.I am really impressed.Thanks for sharing.

[gogi108]

Its off season here in OZ. Racing to start again in a few weeks. I have almost finished reconditioning my XXX4. Here are a few pics. Sorry for the poor quality as it was taken from my phone.
New arms, CVD`s and the list goes on. The only original part is the chassis.2683

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buggy looks nice tyrone , i see u have the alu inner pivot mounts , are they a recent pickup , i'm finding them hard to come by , i'm also in aus , if u know anywhere i can pick up a set let me know . cheers gopes

[tyrone77]

Gopes
I bought the Alu inner pivot mounts 10 years ago, when I bought the car. Its indestrucable with all of the alu bits and pieces.
I have not seen any alu pivot mounts for sale on the net at all recently.
The only option I can think of is if you read this thread from the beginning. There are a few posts about some being made by a couple of member on this site. Maybe have a look through and it might give you some ideas.

Tyrone 77

[gogi108]

Gopes
I bought the Alu inner pivot mounts 10 years ago, when I bought the car. Its indestrucable with all of the alu bits and pieces.
I have not seen any alu pivot mounts for sale on the net at all recently.
The only option I can think of is if you read this thread from the beginning. There are a few posts about some being made by a couple of member on this site. Maybe have a look through and it might give you some ideas.

Tyrone 77

no worries tyrone , ive got the front and rear alu mounts including the elusive 7.5 front but would love the inner mounts to realy top it off , ive had my 4g+ for a couple months now with a few crashes but no breakage to report so alls good . cheers

[tyrone77]

Here is a pic of the final product. I have now finally finished reconditioning my XXX4 and ready to race this Friday. All I need to do is tune it in.

[DBL15]

Here is a pic of the final product. I have now finally finished reconditioning my XXX4 and ready to race this Friday. All I need to do is tune it in.

looks good mate

what set up you running buddy

i can see green springs front
and pink springs rear

what oils in shocks you running ?

and shock locations etc ?

[tyrone77]

DBL15
I`m running the following. 30wt oil front and back.
Rear hub spaced as far back.
0 degree camber front.
-1 degree camber rear.
1mm spacer on the spindle carriers.
Inner hole on the arms for shocks.
Middle hole on the shock towers.
Front arms just under level and rear arms level.

[DBL15]

DBL15
I`m running the following. 30wt oil front and back.
Rear hub spaced as far back.
0 degree camber front.
-1 degree camber rear.
1mm spacer on the spindle carriers.
Inner hole on the arms for shocks.
Middle hole on the shock towers.
Front arms just under level and rear arms level.

cheers mate i will check mine out i want to get it sorted a bit better then it is now

just wish they would bring out something new with gear diffs lol

[gogi108]

Here is a pic of the final product. I have now finally finished reconditioning my XXX4 and ready to race this Friday. All I need to do is tune it in.

tyrone , are the wheels b44 rulux or something else ? cheers

[gogi108]

cheers mate i will check mine out i want to get it sorted a bit better then it is now

just wish they would bring out something new with gear diffs lol

dbl , ive been following the lismore thread for awhile and plan on getiing down in the next couple meets to race the x4g+ , might have to meet u at the chinderah bp or something and follow u down so i dont get lost out in the sticks . cheers gopes

[DBL15]

dbl , ive been following the lismore thread for awhile and plan on getiing down in the next couple meets to race the x4g+ , might have to meet u at the chinderah bp or something and follow u down so i dont get lost out in the sticks . cheers gopes

no problem buddy its easy to find mate but just let me know when your interested in coming down

just seen a 1/16th Losi buggy there classing as the mini 8ight DOH why would they do that instead of a 1/10th buggy :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[tyrone77]

Gogi 108
They sure are B44 rims. Just been a little modified to suit.

[gogi108]

Gogi 108
They sure are B44 rims. Just been a little modified to suit.

tyrone , is b44 front hex all that is needed or is the something else to make it possible to run the rulux wheels ? cheers

[tyrone77]

These rims just fitted straight onto the Losi XXX4 hex. All that was needed to have done was file the hole a little to allow the drive shaft to fit through.

[DBL15]

so you guys running rear sway bars on these things ?:confused:

[tyrone77]

so you guys running rear sway bars on these things ?:confused:

No one here in OZ like running rear sway bars on the XXX4. But I swear by them. To top it off. There are a limited few people who race with the XXX4 here in OZ. There are alot of people who laugh at the XXX4. It is still an A-main car.:D

[gogi108]

These rims just fitted straight onto the Losi XXX4 hex. All that was needed to have done was file the hole a little to allow the drive shaft to fit through.

cheers tyrone , another wheel option , should i need .

[gogi108]

so you guys running rear sway bars on these things ?:confused:

ive run mine both on and off , but left it off , i have really only run my g+ at boondall vintage track which isn't very tech and quite bumpy with only a couple small jumps , i'm going to be heading out to redbank on saturday for it's first "real" track time :D

[DBL15]

ok massive difference in feel of the buggy its alot better with the changes i made

thanks for the tips and help on set ups etc

really wish they would bring out a new version though with gear diffs :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Officespace]

First, let me say that this is a stupid question and I probably already know the answer, but I figured I'd ask everyone's opinion about it.

Has anyone ever tried using a 380 can size brushless system in a Losi XXX4, AE B44, or any other 4x4 10th scale buggy? If so, what were the results?

And to you electric experts (I primarily race 1/8th scale nitro), do you think if I temporarily put this 380 brushless system in my XXX4 and geared it down ALOT, do you think: 1) Will it work?, and 2) Do you think I'd fry the ESC and/or motor?

This isn't for a real race - I'm just trying to put as many electric cars together as I can for an electric "race" we're having for kids this weekend and some of them don't have a car to use.

Any help or advice on this would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Rick

[DBL15]

well i finnaly got around to getting a new shell for the buggy to match my other trucks and cars

was really happy with it last time out with the small changes i made to it

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/sealord1au/RC%20Cars/xxx4g.jpg

[tyrone77]

Last night was my first race meet since last season.
After the mods and reconditioning. The XXX 4 works a treat. Handles all corners and sticks to the track. And for speed. 82kph.

[hitordie010]

Does anyone know where i can still find the jrxs steering components? If any are still available?

[DBL15]

Last night was my first race meet since last season.
After the mods and reconditioning. The XXX 4 works a treat. Handles all corners and sticks to the track. And for speed. 82kph.

hi mate just wondering i am only running a 10.5 right now what have you got in it?

6.5 or 7.5 ?

[tyrone77]

DBL15
I`m running a 6.5 and only using half power. Still goes like the clappers.

[DBL15]

DBL15
I`m running a 6.5 and only using half power. Still goes like the clappers.

thanks mate yeh i am a bit under with the 10.5 i know but i can put that into my XXX-SCT and get a 6 or 7.5 T tekin to match my RS Pro

[jeffreyd1965]

its kind disapointing seeing how dustin evans won 4wd class athe the spektrum race with his um....xxx4g+, did the writer look at the picture its clearly a xx4 so some of the team driver are not even using the xxx4......come on tlr time 4 a new 4wd allready

[Briguy]

He ran the XXX-4 . The team guys can not race the xx-4 as it is not are car Losi is currently manufacturing . Not sure why the pic on the website has him holding the xx-4 . Maybe he is running a new car and used the xx-4 for the pic ???

[DBL15]

He ran the XXX-4 . The team guys can not race the xx-4 as it is not are car Losi is currently manufacturing . Not sure why the pic on the website has him holding the xx-4 . Maybe he is running a new car and used the xx-4 for the pic ???

no way mate

he ran the xx4 at the worlds this year , the team drivers have all said the xx4 is way better then the xxx4

thats why until Losi pull there finger out and release a 1/10th 4x4 buggy i will drive and do much better with a rango which is so much better then the xxx4 will ever be

[dragon26]

I've just listed some aluminium parts on ebay brand new in packet and a spare LOSA1543 steering kit that's for the xxx4 mod as well (that's brand new as well).

[lv4sndz]

I've just listed some aluminium parts on ebay brand new in packet and a spare LOSA1543 steering kit that's for the xxx4 mod as well (that's brand new as well).

Whats your seller name????

[dragon26]

Whats your seller name????

raistlin119 , there's also nip front cvd's

[complacent_one]

Finally completed the steering mod....just in time for the local track to shut down for 6 months..

Whatcha think...
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l85/schwarz505/DSC_00091024x683.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l85/schwarz505/DSC_00111024x683.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l85/schwarz505/DSC_00121024x683.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l85/schwarz505/DSC_00131024x683.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l85/schwarz505/DSC_00181024x683.jpg

the rest of the photos are over here!!
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-items-sale-trade/585831-f-s-losi-xxx-4g-roller-w-lots-o-parts.html

[morris]

Hey guys..this question is for guys that are running tlr big bores on there xxx4...my car has all the mods done to it including big bores..but the buggy is lawn darting horribly and was wondering what you guys are running for springs and oils.
Any info would be great...thx

[Frank Root]

Hey guys..this question is for guys that are running tlr big bores on there xxx4...my car has all the mods done to it including big bores..but the buggy is lawn darting horribly and was wondering what you guys are running for springs and oils.
Any info would be great...thx

I am running 56 32.5 front and 55 27.5 rear.

[morris]

I am running 56 32.5 front and 55 27.5 rear.

Thx frank...what for springs front and rear..I have Orange front and yellow rear on the buggy now.

[Frank Root]

Thx frank...what for springs front and rear..I have Orange front and yellow rear on the buggy now.

Silver front, Grey or White rears.

[morris]

Silver front, Grey or White rears.

Ok thx again..I prolly should of asked this in the first post..but did you do the bladder mods also?

[Frank Root]

Ok thx again..I prolly should of asked this in the first post..but did you do the bladder mods also?

Yes, cut them out :D

[morris]

Yes, cut them out :D

Ok...actually already did...did everything but the silver spring in the front...

[morris]

Frank,
Check your pm please...thx...

[dragon26]

Hi, our track has been rebuilt and has gone from tight, rough and slippery to open, abrasive and high grip so my old trusty setup no longer works(it also has a long straight and a fast sweeper). Has anyone tried Frank's base setup on this type of track?

I've done the steering mod and have a spare set of 22 big bore shocks to install if I have to.

Thanks.

[Frank Root]

Hi, our track has been rebuilt and has gone from tight, rough and slippery to open, abrasive and high grip so my old trusty setup no longer works(it also has a long straight and a fast sweeper). Has anyone tried Frank's base setup on this type of track?

I've done the steering mod and have a spare set of 22 big bore shocks to install if I have to.

Thanks.

I run my based setup at pretty much all tracks. If the grip is too high, try going up 2.5wt front and rear.

[lv4sndz]

I run my based setup at pretty much all tracks. If the grip is too high, try going up 2.5wt front and rear.

Frank what setup are you currently running??? My car doesn't have the big bore shocks on it.
Mike G.

[Frank Root]

Frank what setup are you currently running??? My car doesn't have the big bore shocks on it.
Mike G.

My setup is posted here:

http://www.tlracing.com/ProdInfo/Files/LOSA0015_SetupSheet_FrankRoot-2011.pdf

[dragon26]

I run my based setup at pretty much all tracks. If the grip is too high, try going up 2.5wt front and rear.

Thanks for that.

Is that setup with standard shocks or big bores?

[Frank Root]

Standard Shocks. I have run big bores a bit, but will be running XXX Shocks at Reedy, as that it what I am comfortable with from last year.

[dragon26]

Standard Shocks. I have run big bores a bit, but will be running XXX Shocks at Reedy, as that it what I am comfortable with from last year.

Ok thanks.

[Kchart18]

I just ordered the losa2908 square diff spring and the losa3018 heavy duty thrust bearing. I've hear mixed reviews in previous posts. Does anyone have any new input on running these parts over the standard beleville washers? Also, curious if there are any precautions should follow when when assembling the outdrives with these parts.

[Chris Wolfson]

I just ordered the losa2908 square diff spring and the losa3018 heavy duty thrust bearing. I've hear mixed reviews in previous posts. Does anyone have any new input on running these parts over the standard beleville washers? Also, curious if there are any precautions should follow when when assembling the outdrives with these parts.

You will be fine with those. I much prefer a spring over belleville washers...

[Kchart18]

I've ran these parts through about 10 packs on a 8.5 ballistic setup, worked great. Just rebuilt both diffs and there was very little breakdown of the grease.

[Flying John]

With 4 Losi cars in the A-final, Miguel Matias, Mike Truhe, Dustin Evans, and Darren Bloomfield performed very well with the 'old' XXX-4 at the EOS event in Belgium last weekend.

Got one myself lying around for some time, I'm planning to use it at the Belgian/Dutch nationals this year.

Looking for a good basic astro setup, preferrably from last weekend, it's for the same Belgian track (Charleroi)
I don't have bigbores, but do have the steering mod !

[Frank Root]

With 4 Losi cars in the A-final, Miguel Matias, Mike Truhe, Dustin Evans, and Darren Bloomfield performed very well with the 'old' XXX-4 at the EOS event in Belgium last weekend.

Got one myself lying around for some time, I'm planning to use it at the Belgian/Dutch nationals this year.

Looking for a good basic astro setup, preferrably from last weekend, it's for the same Belgian track (Charleroi)
I don't have bigbores, but do have the steering mod !

I'll try to hit up Dustin for his setups and get them posted on TLRacing.com.

[morris]

I'll try to hit up Dustin for his setups and get them posted on TLRacing.com.

Frank,
It was nice to meet you this past weekend at the shoot out in ma.thx for hooking me up with those 56 pistons.you represented losi very well.congrats on your finishes there.was awesome watching you guys wheel in the a-mains.

[Frank Root]

Thanks! Matt and I had a great time, and it was nice to meet you!

[fastgascar]

Is this kit now discontinued? I went to horizon hobby they don't show the kit, just the parts???

[Briguy]

Looks like and glad it is because that means the new buggy is coming out soon !!

[Frank Root]

Is this kit now discontinued? I went to horizon hobby they don't show the kit, just the parts???

Yes, the kit is no longer being produced.

[fastgascar]

Yes, the kit is no longer being produced.

So what is the replacement?

[Frank Root]

So what is the replacement?

There is no replacement at this time. We are continuing to support parts for the XXX-4 G+.

[colinaitken99]

Is there a slipper drive pulley that is made of a stronger materiel?

[Frank Root]

Is there a slipper drive pulley that is made of a stronger materiel?

No, just the one material. I have never seen an issue with that part though, so I don't see a need for it.

[colinaitken99]

No, just the one material. I have never seen an issue with that part though, so I don't see a need for it.

Somehow mine ripped off the 6 prongs. Then the Kevlar spur didn't stay centered and the middle got chewed up and the slippers got all messed up too. Just ordered a new one (should be in next week) I wasn't sure if it was a common problem.

I guess my other question would be is there a way to bypass the clutch and make that mechanism one solid piece?

[Frank Root]

Somehow mine ripped off the 6 prongs. Then the Kevlar spur didn't stay centered and the middle got chewed up and the slippers got all messed up too. Just ordered a new one (should be in next week) I wasn't sure if it was a common problem.

I guess my other question would be is there a way to bypass the clutch and make that mechanism one solid piece?

You can use one of the XXX-S spur gears, that has the spur and pulley gear molded into one. I wouldn't suggest this though, as you will be going through diffs much quicker.

[Brent J]

Hi Frank,

Are any of the team running 22 hexes on the XXX4? If so how have they
gone about the difference in axle diameter?

I'd like to able to run the same rear wheels for 2WD and 4WD!

Thanks,
Brent

[Frank Root]

Hi Frank,

Are any of the team running 22 hexes on the XXX4? If so how have they
gone about the difference in axle diameter?

I'd like to able to run the same rear wheels for 2WD and 4WD!

Thanks,
Brent

Brent, It only works if you are running CVD's. You need the 11/32 nuts, as the 3/8 nut driver will not fit within the 22 wheel. And you really want to use the JRXS hexes, not the 22 hexes, as the JRXS hexes have the correct inner diameter. I haven't done this, so I am not 100% as to which hex is the proper width.